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The scene, intellectual property and double standards

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Mel: if you don't sign away your intellectual property (why would you?) it's still yours, of course. You don't need to disclaim something that is never claimed.
added on the 2012-09-05 13:11:50 by gloom gloom
Mel: One thing that you need to be careful about tho is that as soon as you released something at a demo party, it's out in the open. Nowadays most parties have an explicit clause that grants them distribution rights to the released entries; there have been cases of eg. musicians trying to pull releases off scene.org because they sold the songs to a record company afterwards. This, luckily, isn't possible any more, so releasing at a party at least precludes you from making exclusive licensing agreements concerning your stuff afterwards.
added on the 2012-09-05 13:36:11 by kb_ kb_
Also, handing in art that you've made as contract work for your employer or similar _might_ be frowned upon - not sure about that, actually :)

*Cough* *cough cough* :D
added on the 2012-09-05 13:39:21 by okkie okkie
I agree with Mel in principal.
I bought the dvd for Borderlands.
The only way I could get the DLC packages was to go on Steam. But because I'd bought the dvd they wouldn't work.If I'd bought the game on Steam I'd be set. But as it is I had to buy the gotye to get the dlc disc. From EB Games.
Steam sux.
added on the 2012-09-05 13:45:31 by ringofyre ringofyre
there have been cases of eg. musicians trying to pull releases off scene.org because they sold the songs to a record company afterwards.
It happens quite often, actually.
added on the 2012-09-05 14:06:40 by gloom gloom
"It happens quite often, actually."
just remove their entire stuff from scene.org and ban them at compos, problem solved.
added on the 2012-09-05 14:25:01 by groepaz groepaz
groepaz: well, I should have been more specific. It happens quite often that artists (or labels, suddenly representing artists) wants music removed from Scene.org. This includes netlabels that asked for (and was given) dedicated web or FTP-space for their entire catalogue, and not just music released in demo compos.
added on the 2012-09-05 14:31:42 by gloom gloom
ringofyre: I don't understand your conclusion. The problem is the publisher who didn't release the DLC outside of Steam and/or make physical purchases redeemable on Steam. Not Steam itself.
added on the 2012-09-05 14:32:11 by Tarmil Tarmil
pretty sure steam has an option for redeeming your physical product as a steam product, but perhaps the creators of borderland decided to pick up a large gun and shoot themselves in the face, repeatedly.
added on the 2012-09-05 16:34:33 by nic0 nic0
by god:
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by demoscene:
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thievery i say!
Mali: Bullshit! God didn't invented fire... that was Satan original work! :D
added on the 2012-09-06 17:09:16 by ham ham
conclusion: be an atheist and you dont have to feel bad about ripping fire effects.
added on the 2012-09-06 18:04:34 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
D.Fox: i read the Copyright Information on the Revision site. Seems fairly straightforward.

gloom: I guess. From an ethical point thought i dunno how popular you would get if were to double-dip your work, even if it's done first in the scene.

kb: I can imagine. I'm sure most of the disputes are related to songs and not code or artwork. Still, it's something people should be aware of, especially when it comes to exclusive licensing agreements.
added on the 2012-09-06 22:42:11 by Mel Mel
Btw I have some of my own cds to sell, so do buy directly from the artist.
added on the 2012-09-07 10:12:44 by el-bee el-bee
i want a signed orlando boom CD!!! :P


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