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trace: what you're kind of saying there is you regret those thumbdowns. Fair enough, I'm sure I have some I regret somewhere too.

But then you're asking for a system where you can't make this kind of regrettable error. Then you can't regret it later, learn from it, and become a better person at the end. The fuck you is good for you man, keep it :D
added on the 2010-11-03 11:10:40 by psonice psonice
I guess I care more about newbies feeling they are wasting their time here when they get thumb downs from the usual pouet trolls on their first prods or because they happen to chose platforms different than the usual. At that point they don't know who is worth listening to and if they feel like that they may just stop contributing.

Yes yes, I know, people should be mature enough and we don't want pussies around here. I know.
added on the 2010-11-03 11:44:05 by mrdoob mrdoob
what bout dat

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added on the 2010-11-03 11:54:10 by bull bull
Also, more constructive without thumb downs? WTF? What's more constructive than honesty, as brutal as it may be?

that boy speaks the truth.

...the cruellest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't.
- Ben Croshaw.

so does he.
added on the 2010-11-03 12:25:35 by smash smash
so there we have it. we need a new scoring system for ~10,000 users just because out of the three newbies each year (cos it aren't exactly hordes) one might actually find a thumb down offending and demotivating and leaves the scene forever to seek a career in hacking vending machines! excellent idea. i think we lose more newbies due to vulcanic eruptions!
hide all thumbs down for users whose glop count is less than 100... yay
added on the 2010-11-03 13:13:32 by Jcl Jcl
smash: Ben Croshaw would probably never give a thumb up anyway
added on the 2010-11-03 13:50:02 by the_Ye-Ti the_Ye-Ti
agree with the Ben Croshaw quote.

usually the comments aren't very useful though, if you wanted to use them as critiques of your productions.
added on the 2010-11-03 14:38:46 by farfar farfar
hide all users whose based-on-demozoo-credited-in-production-count is less than 10... yay
Why, is it only the new, never-produced-anything people doing the thumbing down? Trace already proved it isn't :D

Ok, alternative solution: The existing voting system stays, and we keep the fuck you. What changes is we start telling the trolls to stfu or provide something constructive a bit more often, so people might get some helpful feedback rather than just "sucks".
added on the 2010-11-03 14:57:45 by psonice psonice
psonice: stfu!
maali: explain why or stfu yourself :D
added on the 2010-11-03 15:35:39 by psonice psonice
fuck no, i'll just settle with a thumb down instead!
Ok, alternative solution: The existing voting system stays, and we keep the fuck you. What changes is we start telling the trolls to stfu or provide something constructive a bit more often, so people might get some helpful feedback rather than just "sucks".

added on the 2010-11-03 17:05:34 by skrebbel skrebbel
If it was possible to thumb comments up, that would pretty much solve the problem. As it is now, a "You're German, fuck you! *thumb down*" counts as much as a "I found the music pretentious and badly mixed, and a 10-minute white-noise overlay over a rotating sphere isn't exactly inspiring.. especially for your fifth demo... in .werkkzeug none-the-less. Sucks.", and that blows. I like the Digg/YouTube-system where comments can be rated, so that anything below, say, -5, is hidden by default (but can be shown). It would tell newbies that the normal Pouet-crowd are equally unimpressed by random troll-hate, and it would lead to increased activity on the site, which (as long as the DB can handle it) is All Good(tm).
added on the 2010-11-03 19:41:07 by gloom gloom
I like that idea too. There is also the approach of making the text of comments that have been downvoted have less and less opacity.
added on the 2010-11-03 20:05:09 by mrdoob mrdoob
or how about, for every down-vote, you could replace one letter with an animated gif of a cock?
added on the 2010-11-03 20:15:28 by farfar farfar
I like that idea of rating comments too, but is it likely to happen? That would be a lot more work than pretty much anything else suggested.
added on the 2010-11-03 20:21:45 by psonice psonice
gloom: sounds pretty cool...
added on the 2010-11-03 20:30:44 by thec thec
Yeah, it's a bit like residue but for comments, and automated. I would even apply it to the BBS. There is so much noise around (just look at this thread).
added on the 2010-11-03 20:37:26 by mrdoob mrdoob
gloom for President! \o/
added on the 2010-11-03 21:33:20 by Zavie Zavie
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added on the 2010-11-03 21:50:51 by havoc havoc
I wouldn't care that much about someone who can't handle a
You're German, fuck you!
added on the 2010-11-03 21:55:19 by joooo joooo
psonice: Yeah, it is indeed more work than any of the other suggestions, but I think it might be a good idea to do it well rather than doing it fast - especially when we're talking about a quite important change. Of course, it's all up to the people who actually develop on Pouet (who are now... just Gargaj?) so they'll of course have to make the final call. But yeah, I like this idea.
added on the 2010-11-03 22:09:25 by gloom gloom
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