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oh no! new Amiga crap on the way!

category: general [glöplog]
added on the 2010-01-06 03:03:35 by chriz74 chriz74
What happened to the old new amiga crap?
added on the 2010-01-06 03:07:03 by xernobyl xernobyl
I think it was flushed down the toilet as we all know it belonged there.
added on the 2010-01-06 03:08:44 by chriz74 chriz74
The chip ("xena") that can do at most 400 mips does graphics works along with a bunch of other stuff and it is being marketed as a "high end" system.

A descent high end gpu can do a teraflop all by itself easily.

This is looking like yet another PowerPC ISA workstation.
added on the 2010-01-06 03:42:27 by QUINTIX QUINTIX
honestly, sounds like a nice toy. may get people into FPGA development .. the easy way. other than arouse the curiosity of some coders i don't think this has a future. afterall, an iphone is more powerful than this..
added on the 2010-01-06 10:25:08 by earx earx
Its not an FPGA, its closer to a transputer.

The idea is that the xmos chip is really good for realtime problems; you could hook up a floppy drive and ready any exotic old format without a special catweasel style device, or you could bit-bang 100Mb ethernet if you wanted. Those are reasonably useless examples, i know, but in my work we've evaluated switching from our custom boards to generic PCs running windows xp embedded or linux, and the lack of realtime support has made it less of a no-brainer than it would be otherwise (yes i'm aware that there are realtime operating systems).

To me, its not a competitor to a high end system, but i really really like OS4.x, and my AmigaOne XE-G4 is getting old, so i'll almost certainly save up my pennies and get one.
added on the 2010-01-06 10:30:55 by xeron xeron
"Xena" is neither the cpu nor gpu, so it's hard to say much about general system performance from that. It seems more like an always connected toy-around chip, but delivering "massive parallelism" at 400mips total doesn't seem overwhelming ;)
Graphics seems to be handled by an ordinary pcie graphics card (one with drivers..), and cpu is unknown.
added on the 2010-01-06 10:35:16 by Psycho Psycho
The parallelism can be cranked up via the xorro slot apparently, so your parallelised solution can be easily upscaled by just bunging more xmos chips at it, which is kind of nifty in a way.
added on the 2010-01-06 10:36:51 by xeron xeron
please stop this crap! They should port AOS to X86 and that's all.. but they don't even have a decent browser.
added on the 2010-01-06 11:57:17 by chriz74 chriz74
OWB works with most sites just fine. Firefox is on the way.
added on the 2010-01-06 12:26:05 by xeron xeron
The point is. Amiga was a good computer before 486 came to town. Now it can't be better no matter what. So, if you like Amiga stick to vintage and stop hoping a resurrection. Even if it would it won't be better than anything else around. And it doesn't seem this EON stuff will make it good anyways.
added on the 2010-01-06 12:53:00 by chriz74 chriz74
Why do you assume that i think there is a realistic chance of a resurrection?

Why does it annoy you that people have an upgraded Amiga operating system to play with?

I have it, i love it. I'm glad hyperion made it. If a miracle happened and it made them some money, bonus. I'm really really glad I don't have to stick to the old 68k amigas.
added on the 2010-01-06 12:59:37 by xeron xeron
Same as Xeron, we are well aware of the state, and of course there isn't a hope in hell of a resurrection. But still i've been in love with Amiga for over 20 years now, and will be for another 20. AmigaOS has a heart, Linux is just a robot and well windows...is well windows but made usable by having the wonderful Directory Opus installed :)
And if you want AmigaOS on x86 just use AROS it's very usable.
added on the 2010-01-06 13:14:37 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
ah, the xmos looks nice. reminds me alot of the dsp in the falcon. prepare for people being too lame to code it ;) but still, outside of industrial and embedded applications i can't see the use. it might be a nice playground for people wanting to get into embedded stuff. and it might eat up a bit of the FPGA market (here's hoping, i hate the things. they are backward in so many respects, it's frightening..)

as for amiga.. i'd prefer to have the xmos on a card in my PC..
added on the 2010-01-06 15:08:53 by earx earx
Chances are it'll be priced out of anything but the extreme enthusiast market. Anything more than £1k and it's not for me, for £500 it'd be interesting, but they've already said the SAM is low end which is around £500 and the X1000 will be high end so meh.
added on the 2010-01-06 15:24:39 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
xmos is soooo 2006, and it smells like a rip-off of the SeaForth design:


added on the 2010-01-06 15:30:24 by torus torus
and freescale had something like the TPU i once heard (probably flopped, i dunno)
added on the 2010-01-06 15:39:20 by earx earx
Windows what? Directory OPUS??? Please give me a break! Windows 7 beats the crap out of that OS4. I am very glad there this shit didn't happen to c64!
added on the 2010-01-06 15:43:20 by chriz74 chriz74
I don't get it. Why do you care? I understand not being interested in OS4.x, but i never understood these people that seem to take a personal affront to its existance.

*I* really like OS4.x. Why should i be deprived of it because you see no value in it?
added on the 2010-01-06 15:49:48 by xeron xeron
Like it or not, you will more than likely be deprived of it for other reasons than the value we see in it.
added on the 2010-01-06 16:13:18 by havoc havoc
oh why the hell did you start this topic? Just to pick a fight with Amiga Fans?
And you even didnt link up what "New Amiga Crap" this thread is about.

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added on the 2010-01-06 16:14:23 by tFt tFt
Hey. Directory Opus is brilliant!
added on the 2010-01-06 16:21:40 by doomdoom doomdoom
added on the 2010-01-06 16:24:49 by tFt tFt
It's obvious he's just a clueless troll. I doubt he even knows what DOpus is.
added on the 2010-01-06 16:44:33 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
I know DOpus. It's bloatware.
added on the 2010-01-07 00:29:16 by chriz74 chriz74


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