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What is a hacker anyways?

category: general [glöplog]
I am wondering first. That guy who wrote manifesto. Is he a hacker like in the old definition, say hobbyist programmer? Or like the new definition, security breaker?

What is the meaning of the manifesto?
When they say they are not criminals?

- Do they mean "I was a hobbyist programmer calling myself hacker, I don't have anything to do with the cyberanarchists, nothing todo and they confuse me?".
- Or do they mean "Ok, I was into security breaking, cyberanarchist thing, but this is not bad. We don't want to harm, we are just doing it for the "good" reasons".

That guy ment0r, which one of the two categories is?

When people refer to the manifesto, do they refer to good security breakers and bad security breakers or hobbyist creative programmers versus security breaker as a stupid attitude at all?

When I say I don't like the hacker mentality they tell me I am stupid because the pioneers did the stuff I am using today. But they meaned to respect the computer programming hobbyists just like me and us in the scene. Yet when they say "hacker", they don't mean these hobbyist but the new trend security breaking, defacing sites, etc. A completely different thing.

When I try to explain things, they say, ok the cyberanarchists are also very good at programming. If they are so good, why have a narrow activity of senseless internet attacks all years and not do a lot of other creative stuff?

And I find out that even supposedly big names like Kevin Mitnick, Gary mcginon and others, didn't need to know programming to hack a site or something.

It's something completely different. But when I read the hacker manifest or even when I read the new phrase "hackers not crackers" isn't the meaning confusing? For example some say hackers=hobbyist programmers & crackers = security breakers. Others say hacker = good security breakers & cracker = bad security breaker.


p.s. The other question is: Why do I care so much?
added on the 2009-07-01 14:10:50 by Optimonk Optimonk
added on the 2009-07-01 14:11:46 by Puryx Puryx
Hacker: somebody who hacks stuff.

Now quit fannying around over pointless definitions and go make a demo!
added on the 2009-07-01 14:13:26 by psonice psonice
What is the problem? Words change their meaning over time, or how do you explain "democracy"?
Optimus, you need to watch more movies.

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Now, code a demo about it.
added on the 2009-07-01 14:33:55 by ham ham
cute chick! those are the one you meet when you're joining the hacking-community!
added on the 2009-07-01 14:43:40 by rudi rudi
im just kidding of course. i know she's just an actor. but hey, i wonder if she represents the female-hackers. :P
added on the 2009-07-01 14:45:32 by rudi rudi
Btw, I just found who ment0r was and his site

I knew it!!! A hacker is someone who hacks furniture with an axe!

p.s. Also, crosbow for teh win :)
added on the 2009-07-01 14:46:52 by Optimonk Optimonk
The Mentor is a fucking genious!
added on the 2009-07-01 14:54:46 by rudi rudi
added on the 2009-07-01 14:55:07 by Optimonk Optimonk
rydi: you're so out of this world that you dont even recognize angelina jolie?
I saw angelina and I couldn't handle to not post this :)

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added on the 2009-07-01 14:57:18 by Optimonk Optimonk
Maali: of course i recognized her. i just said she was a cute chick :D
added on the 2009-07-01 15:03:49 by rudi rudi

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Now, code a demo about it.

i feel like i could code ten demos about it

though a few minutes of privacy with those pictures and i have a feeling i'd suddenly forget all those ideas
Skyggen - danish hacker movie.. are there other movies?
added on the 2009-07-01 17:48:23 by neoneye neoneye
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added on the 2009-07-01 18:41:36 by sigflup sigflup
ps. acid burn I think is totally hot, like seriously.
added on the 2009-07-01 18:47:32 by sigflup sigflup
A hacker is one that hack code.
added on the 2009-07-01 18:54:32 by Deus Deus

Is there a tool that can use a card reader as an input device?

added on the 2009-07-01 19:14:32 by Deus Deus
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added on the 2009-07-01 19:15:00 by jua jua
AAAa classic!
added on the 2009-07-01 19:15:28 by Deus Deus
Trinity's so far the only fictitious female hacker who's done an nmap portscan to employ the SSH CRC-32 buffer overflow exploit (Matrix Reloaded). All the other ones have, to a greater or lesser extent, merely signed into AOL and typed smileys.
added on the 2009-07-01 19:41:01 by syphus syphus
So does that make trinity any more real?
added on the 2009-07-01 19:43:44 by sigflup sigflup


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