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Midi controller for demos?

category: general [glöplog]
I'm still fantasizing about a "tracker" that can be used to do tracks as well as "composing" the visuals...

We do that.

In Texas, we actually used the same tracker for both visuals and music.
Gnu rocket systems by kusma and skrebbel.
added on the 2008-12-08 08:48:12 by quisten quisten
tracker to control syching?

i used a similar system at some point. but it involved loads of trips to the tracker and back. okay on a pc.. but on a singletasking oldschool box, it wasn't everything i hoped for ;)
added on the 2008-12-08 10:39:52 by earx earx
earx: maxYMizer should do the trick

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added on the 2008-12-08 10:50:59 by samurai samurai
behringer control fader (BCF2000) is able to send 10 bits. it doesn't need any drivers, so you can connect it at any XP computer without trouble. it's quite big so it takes a lot of desk space. it costs around 200€. the motor faders move real fast, but somehow i suspect them to fail after a while...

added on the 2008-12-08 11:07:59 by chaos chaos
tracker to control syching?

Aye, works really well. As Quisten writes, just check out Texas, Regus Ademordna or Scyphozoa for examples.
added on the 2008-12-08 11:20:56 by gloom gloom
earx: Our sync-tracker uses a network connection to connect to the demo, so it works on any system you can hook up to that. Lord Graga and Skrebbel even integrated it into a GBA-emulator, and used it for a couple of GBA demos :)

And you don't have to go back-and-forth between the tracker and the demo - it all works WYSIWYG.
added on the 2008-12-08 12:11:51 by kusma kusma
added on the 2008-12-08 12:25:45 by gloom gloom

my bcf2000 is now about 4 years old and so far only one fader died.
added on the 2008-12-08 13:07:48 by rp rp
guys you are my heroes, a unique tracker/sequencer to sync music & visuals \o/

btw wasn't the Texas tool presented at nvscene ? i don't see any related seminar video.
added on the 2008-12-08 13:22:05 by Zest Zest
Zest: There is no "Texas tool", there is GNU Rocket, the synctracker by Kusma and Skrebbel which was integrated into it (an easy job really). Anyone can integrate it into their own demo engines to control objects, post processing, camera etc.

There will be a feature on the synctracker in the next issue of ZINE btw.
added on the 2008-12-08 13:39:49 by gloom gloom
DAMN, that smelled of Hugi.
added on the 2008-12-08 13:58:09 by Gargaj Gargaj
Zest: you are probably thinking of the tbc / loonies tool, which is something completely different from what we used. We actually keyframed the whole thingy (possible by optimizing the parameters manually to pack well, that was somewhat a hazzle, but it worked).
added on the 2008-12-08 13:58:29 by quisten quisten
Gargaj: In what way? I'll actually follow through with my statement, and the article will be completely devoid of racist/nazi-references. :)
added on the 2008-12-08 14:04:57 by gloom gloom
gloom: ...not even a nigger-joke? :(
added on the 2008-12-08 14:08:55 by kusma kusma
kusma: Tell you what, I'll let you contribute with some quotes and then I'll skip the editorial pass alltogether and publish whatever you say. Oh, wait, that's not how we do it in ZINE.. ;)
added on the 2008-12-08 14:09:56 by gloom gloom
thanx for clearing it up and sorry for the confusion :>
added on the 2008-12-08 14:34:41 by Zest Zest
kusma, you got any screenshots of Rocket? I've found myself on the sourceforge page a few times but I don't have a Windows machine to build the source on. It's sounds like a very interesting idea.
burgrlovr: Sure, here. (Uploaded it just now)
added on the 2008-12-08 15:42:28 by kusma kusma
kusma: It should be mentioned that the "monitor-view" shows up in a separate window.
added on the 2008-12-08 15:43:54 by gloom gloom
gloom: Yeah. Also, in reality, you get a lot more mess since you have like half a million tracks going on :)
added on the 2008-12-08 15:44:48 by kusma kusma
"connected to"? jesus, people, running a sync tracker via sockets? :D (i admire the idea, of course :)
added on the 2008-12-08 15:45:24 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: Yeah. The reason why I did that was that I didn't want to loose data if the demo crashes (and let's face it - it will), so it needs to run in a separate process. Then it was down to picking a communication-model, and sockets seemed logical.
added on the 2008-12-08 15:51:10 by kusma kusma
gargaj: Stop focusing on the tool and start focusing on the result. :) This is the demoscene - if it works, it works. It doesn't have to be elegant ;)
added on the 2008-12-08 16:14:37 by gloom gloom
oh this is elegant, no question - just very very unusual :)
added on the 2008-12-08 16:16:13 by Gargaj Gargaj
gargaj, that also means you can run the demo on a separate machine from the tracker - such as an amiga or GBA :)
added on the 2009-07-14 13:19:08 by spookysys spookysys


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