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Can't run some .com demos.

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For example:

Application popup: 16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem : E:\dl\sierpilb\sierpil0.com
The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.
CS:c000 IP:d414 OP:fe 66 62 68 78 Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.

Application popup: 16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem : E:\dl\DARTH_~1\DARTHS~1\DARTHS~1.COM
The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.
CS:c000 IP:d414 OP:fe 66 62 68 78 Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.


I have seeing more and more non-Windows demos not running due to NTVDM CPU. Any ideas? I am using an Athlon 64 4600+ (939; dual core) with 2 GB of RAM, Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates), EVGA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB of RAM; PCIE), etc.

Thank you in advance. :)
added on the 2007-02-17 14:51:14 by AntDude AntDude
You might want to try DOSbox :)
added on the 2007-02-17 14:52:31 by Gargaj Gargaj
use dosbox. have the same prob. gf 7900 gtx here, intel c2d.
added on the 2007-02-17 14:58:32 by las las
First: Ant, thumbing down all cool 256B intros because you have problem with 16bit subsystem is like singing "I'm a fucking lamer, tra la la" very loudly.

Second: DOSBox should be activated only when intro is really anti-windows. You should rather find solution to solve this global problem, but unfortunatelly I have no idea about it, never had similar problems (also new computer with XP SP2, GeForce 6600, P4 3GHz).
added on the 2007-02-17 15:04:02 by Pirx Pirx
(Many intros aren't smooth under DOSBox, no matter of CPU cycles setting.)
added on the 2007-02-17 15:10:27 by Pirx Pirx
Pirx: Why do coders still make DOS demos then if people can't run them. I can't even get my Audigy 2 ZS sound card to work with an old Windows 95's DOS boot disk.

Yeah, DOSbox is horrbily slow. Same with VMware v4.5.2.
added on the 2007-02-17 15:44:51 by AntDude AntDude
Most of people CAN run small DOS intros everywhere: under all versions of DOS and Windows. I don't know only about Vista. New demos for Windows with big hardware requirement cause much more problems. And only in com program for DOS coders can put wonderful effect in 256 bytes only (I'm passing over indyvidual exceptions, and non-PC platforms) - this is real art, but i see you don't feel (understand) it at all...

Try to set bigger value for CPU cycles in dosbox.conf file to get better speed, or by pressing Ctrl+F12, sometimes helps.
added on the 2007-02-17 16:02:08 by Pirx Pirx
Ant you suck seriously. Do you want to join us?
Pirx: Hmm, still luck with it. Still choppy. I even tried fullscreen to see if that helps. :( What makes demos run for most people? Old hardwares?

notitanes: That's nice.
added on the 2007-02-17 16:34:26 by AntDude AntDude
no .com demo's running under vista... i have descovered
added on the 2007-02-17 17:40:55 by dila dila
Quote:
What makes demos run for most people?

32bit processors.
notitanes: Odd. I don't remember this problem on my old Athlon 64 3200+ (754) system. I am still using the same 32-bit Windows XP on the newer system. Hmm!
added on the 2007-02-17 18:36:03 by AntDude AntDude
"I can't even get my Audigy 2 ZS sound card to work with an old Windows 95's DOS boot disk."
-That's because todays CL cards are no longer real SB cards but just suck.
added on the 2007-02-17 23:55:03 by T$ T$
I want to use my GUS still, why don't they make new motherboards with ISA slots anymore? :D
added on the 2007-02-18 00:00:11 by dnes dnes
Looks nifty!

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added on the 2007-02-18 01:09:01 by bdk bdk
Moving to Win32 with 256-byte intros sounds like a really clueless solution.

I'd go for some easily emulatable classic platform if MS-DOS compatibility is not available. Or maybe even some new virtual machine that optimizes for code density, emulation speed and simplicity/portability.

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