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"pouët != scene && scene != pouët"

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oh dear. you guys really are geeks..
added on the 2004-12-10 13:52:06 by gemini gemini
And one of them is greek.
Adok: Hör mal auf hier rumzutrollen und sag an, wie man "is not" in der Mengenalgebra hier besser darstellen könnte? "\" fliegt raus, weil man dann keine Mengenvereinigung durchführen könnte.
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@gemini

duh. this is a scene board. Therefore it is for geeks.
added on the 2004-12-10 14:33:12 by xeron xeron
Hey, what can you expect from somebody who puts pictures of himself in public toilets on his homepage?
added on the 2004-12-10 15:22:03 by ithaqua ithaqua
I'm not a geek, just for the record. I do not bite heads off chickens for a living, and I'm old enough to remember when this was used as an insult - the equivalent of 'nigger' or 'nazi' or 'fascist' or 'faggot' or 'nerd.'

Also, none of my scener friends are geeks or nerds. They may say they are but they are just avoiding explaining yet again to someone why their version of being cool is boring and unimaginative.

Also, I'm far too metal.
o/¨ THE ACE OF SPADES! THE ACE OF SPADES! o/¨
*groar*
added on the 2004-12-10 16:24:17 by psenough psenough
also today is no offence to call someone 'faggot' or 'nigger'. or even 'you faggot nigger' or 'you nigger faggot' (don't know if nigger and faggot are good operationals in any programme language, but i think it's different to call someone faggot nigger or nigger faggot)

also you could call someone

[b]'you fucking faggot nigger piece of shit'[b]

and still be friends with that person. it always depends of the context.

but i DO think you're geeks. faggot geeks. faggot geek greeks.
added on the 2004-12-10 18:43:12 by jeenio jeenio
forgot 2 things in my last post: a "/" and a ":D"
added on the 2004-12-10 18:44:21 by jeenio jeenio
logic is teh suck.
added on the 2004-12-10 18:57:41 by rac rac
... Why? Because it's ILL, y0! Jesus, what a stupid word. Who comes up with slang these days, anyway? How did "sick", "bad" and "ill" become compliments? Before long, street kids will be going up to one another: "man, you are a fucking asshole!" "hey, thanx dood."
/Ishkur's music guide - Illbient/
added on the 2004-12-10 19:30:03 by Gargaj Gargaj
Adok is black and white.
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MadenMann: Thanks for the great pic. It demonstrates the so-called "abductive conclusion" (Abduktion). Sometimes it may be right, but sometimes it may be "very wrong"...
added on the 2004-12-10 20:02:59 by Adok Adok
wow.. why did i have 2 univ classes about logic? i could have learned all its dark secrets right here on pouet.. im so stupid!!
added on the 2004-12-10 20:25:45 by psenough psenough
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i'm so stupid!!


who am i to tell you otherwise....
added on the 2004-12-10 20:35:29 by jeenio jeenio
now i know why they picked a penguin as mascotte for Linux ;)
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Since "!=" is a commutative operator, "pouët != scene" implies that "scene != pouët", so it's obsolete to test for both.


In C, the && operator guarantees left-to-right evaluation. If the first operand compares equal to 0, the second operand is not evaluated. Every serious compiler will see that the second operand is therefore never evaluated and optimize it away. So I don't see the problem.

added on the 2004-12-10 23:12:09 by sparcus sparcus
Hmm, ok, I suck, that's not exactly right, but compilers will optimize the second one away anyhow, so never mind ;-)
added on the 2004-12-10 23:14:12 by sparcus sparcus
<knowing monkey>
paralogism.
</knowing monkey>
added on the 2004-12-10 23:25:43 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Well, this must be java or c# anyways.
added on the 2004-12-11 03:38:06 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
if there's someone who got it even more than optimus, then it's gargaj.

and i wish gemini wouldn't speak of 'you guys' if it's all directed at one single austrian person anyway. =)
added on the 2004-12-11 03:43:20 by dalezr dalezr
Actually my second posting (about the results which one would get if && had a higher precedence level than !=) was a bit bloated; it would not have been necessary to distinguish between left-to-right and right-to-left evaluation as != for boolean values means XOR (exclusive-or, antivalence), and that's a commutative operation. XOR (a1, a2, ..., an) is true if the number of values ai that are true is odd, otherwise it's false. Keeping this in mind one could reduce my calculations to several lines less.

But I don't think the original author's intention (we know he's not an experienced programmer) was to compare the values of pouët and scene. Then pouët != scene would be true only if either pouët were true and scene were false or pouët were false and scene were true. As both pouët and scene exist, pouët != scene is definitely false! I believe what he has rather meant is that pouët is not the scene, i.e. they have different addresses. So the correct syntax would have been: &pouët != &scene.

After all, both A and B may be teachers or members of the Grand Old Party, so they are equal in some respect, but nevertheless they are not the same person. That's just the case with pouët and the scene.
added on the 2004-12-11 10:08:29 by Adok Adok
not experienced programmers always use a known language to express their abstract ideas. even pat groove knows that.
added on the 2004-12-11 11:34:51 by psenough psenough
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added on the 2004-12-11 19:02:49 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: Is it you?
added on the 2004-12-11 19:22:55 by Adok Adok

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