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You remember - at the dawn of the 3d accelerator age there was no directx, and OpenGL was for professional workstations. Instead there was a plethora of proprietary 3d liberaries.

The most wellknown was glide and there were also scenedemos for it. Do you know any glide demos?

Where there any demos for other 3d llibs? (Virge, Powervr etc.)

Here are some demos for glide/3dfx:

http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=1201
http://pouet.net/nfo.php?which=2844
http://pouet.net/nfo.php?which=2181
http://www.pouet.net/nfo.php?which=310
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2844
http://pouet.net/nfo.php?which=119

hey, weren't you going to shut up for good?

Can we have a MS-Dos/Windows/Glide category like MS-Dos/GUS?

It really sucks not being able to find Glide gems or, on the other hand, running into Glide demos you can't run.

pleez? ;)

GLIDE was an API, it makes no sense to have a category for it.

and there are glide drivers / wrappers for modern gfx cards so running glide demos shouldn't be a problem.

it was also hardware. like GUS.
and yeah. I know there are wrappers.
how about a bit of (special) hardware information for every demo on the prod page? Arbitary or predefined stuff. like "needs DirectX10.1" or whatever. people will be really thankful for that in the future probably...
and yeah, I can read fileinfos.

Another use for the "tags" feature that has been discussed before :)

or something like that. yeah.

So we have some glide-demos, but what about PowerVR-SGL native stuff? none?

Is that the gpu on sega saturn? There are a few saturn demos around

I created a list for 3DFX demos. Let me know if there are more, or if you want to be a maintainer of that list.

Thx for the list.

Not Saturn, but Dreamcast. There were PowerVR cards for PC as well, but 3D acceleration was generally despised by the demo scene at the time. Even the much more popular 3DFX cards saw very little support.

@PulkoMandy: I've been using the Glide tag on Demozoo to maintain a list of the ones I can find. I don't know if I have all of them but it should be a pretty good start.

https://demozoo.org/productions/tagged/glide/

Thanks, synchronized :)

thx!

Hey there! (a few familiar names in the comments...)

I'm interested in getting a complete list together of 3D hardware accelerated demos for DOS/Windows that didn't use OpenGL or Direct3D APIs, but instead used APIs proprietary to their respective 3D graphics cards and 3D hardware accelerators.

Back in the day, there were several 3D APIs that were proprietary to specific 3D hardware accelerators or graphics cards.

These included:

• 3Dfx Glide
  
• ATI 3D CIF ("C Interface")
  
• Bitboys/Tritech Pyramid3D API
  
• Creative Labs CGL (Creative Graphics Library)
  
• Matrox Simple Interface (MSI)
  
• NVidia NVLib
  
• PowerVR PowerSGL / PowerSGL Direct
  
• Rendition RRedline
  
• Rendition Speedy3D
  
• S3 Graphics MeTaL
  
• S3 Graphics S3D

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Here's what I have so far:

3Dfx Glide:
(sources: pouet, demozoo)

• Codename Chinadoll - Windows - katastro.fi - Dec 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=119
  
• Dimension - MS-Dos - Gods - May 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2182
  
• Edison - Windows - TsT - Aug 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=14244
  
• Face the Future - Windows - Tommy Krul and Tommy de Roos / GiMMiC - Feb 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=71519
  
• First Demo II - MS-Dos - Smash Designs - Feb 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=1213
  
• Flying :: Falling with style - Windows - iMAGE! VR Section - Feb 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=14782
  
• Fucktory - MS-Dos - Capsicum Tincture - June 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16129
  
• Incoming Future - Windows - Gods - Dec 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2852
  
• Nature - MS-Dos, Windows - Vertigo - May 1997 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2181 (MS-Dos/software renderer, Windows/Glide)
  
• Radio Activity - Windows - Pragma Studios - Jul 1999 - https://demozoo.org/productions/43296/ (not on pouet)
  
• Scorpion: The Demo - Linux, Windows - MalcomZ and Niels / Shazz - Apr 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30133
  
• Shortcut - MS-Dos - Buckshag / MSTGD - May 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=17221
  
• The Asylum - Windows - Moppi Productions - Dec 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=70939
  
• To Be Continued... - Windows - Saw Tooth Distortion - Apr 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=18874
  
• Trip - MS-Dos - Kosmic - Jan 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2844
  
• Virhe - Windows - Mature Furk - Aug 1999 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=1084
  
• yume 2 - MS-Dos - inf - Dec 1998 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=310
  
• Žertva - Windows - C.P.U. Team and Musica Vitae - Aug 1999 (aka Zertva) - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=24753

ATI 3D CIF ("C Interface"):


Bitboys/Tritech Pyramid3D API:


Creative Labs CGL (Creative Graphics Library):

• 21st Century Digital Boy - MS-DOS - Spanish Lords - Jul 1997 - https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=20512

Matrox Simple Interface (MSI):


NVidia NVLib (NV1):


PowerVR PowerSGL:


Rendition RRedline (Windows):
So far, these are all from Rendition's 1998 "Take it to the RRedline" competition (all not on pouet/demozoo, incidentally). The rest from the competition were OpenGL demos. None are on pouet/demozoo, though I am not sure how many count.
http://web.archive.org/web/19981202065910/http://www.rendition.com/ToTheRRedline.html
Alternate download link: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=165&menustate=0

• n-Cubed - Windows - Raymond Chan (aXon) - Apr 1998 (aka nCubed) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT08RiLDACQ
  
• R3 - Windows - Chris Lundie - Apr 1998
  
• RRide - Windows - Jari Jokivuori - Apr 1998 (aka RRide3) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGLor1b9Iww
  
• rrMorph - Windows - Roland & Erik Karlsson - Apr 1998 (aka rrMorph34) (really more of a tech demo)
  
• TDH_Demo - Windows - Travis Hopkins - Apr 1998
  
• Typin Cuber - Windows - Joseph Heiskala - Apr 1998 (aka Typin)
  

Rendition Speedy3D (DOS):


S3 Graphics MeTaL:


S3 Graphics S3D:


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This... might be all of them! But I'd love your comments and corrections!
I don't think I've left any proprietary 3D APIs to 3D hardware accelerators / graphics cards out, either.
In the process of this, I added/updated a few entries at demozoo, jmph...

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While I have you here... I'm also interested in collecting the respective SDKs for some of these APIs, if you still have them in your archives!
I am still hunting:

• 3Dfx Glide SDK for DOS v2.03h2, 2.03h3, 2.1 (not 2.1.1), 2.2
  
• ATI 3D Rage I/II SDK - any version
  
• Bitboys/Tritech Pyramid3D API SDK - any version
  
• Creative's Creative Graphics Library SDK - any version
  
• Matrox Simple Interface (Mystique) SDK for DOS and Windows - any version
  
• Rendition Speedy3D SDK - any version
  
• S3 MeTaL API SDK - any version
  
• early Criterion RenderWare 1.x, BRender, RenderMorphics RealityLab, Hybrid SurRender3D SDKs
  
• earlier/later versions to SDKs: PowerVR Series 1 SDK (2000-05-02), S3 S3D Toolkit 2.6, ATI 3D Rage Pro SDK 4.1, NVidia NV1 SDK 1.50, Rendition RRedline SDKs from May 98 and Dec 98.

If you can help, please let me know!

Long-term: also interested in hardware documentation, datasheets and databooks on the "GPUs" that used these 3D APIs, though at this point I mostly have all of the public documentation and I'm looking instead for company internal documentation and documentation that was only available to developers under private NDA.

Thanks, folks!

- Stiletto

Bleam by Lionhead was for 3dfx too. There was a 3dfx demo compo at The Gathering '98, but they generally sucked.

Im almost sure Futuremark released a 3D benchmark, tech-demo thingie for 3dfx, but i might be remembering something else..