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category: general [glöplog]
I guess most platforms are so shitty that higher res wouldn’t make sense anyway \:D/
added on the 2018-07-23 16:32:32 by farfar farfar
true :)
added on the 2018-07-23 16:34:37 by havoc havoc
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gloom: are you trying to use a really cheap debate technique and will i fall for it?

What, to counter your identical technique used above? Why, I would never..
added on the 2018-07-23 17:37:33 by gloom gloom
Anyway, I give up — this whole thread is a painful reminder of why I stopped coming to Pouet in the first place. My days are far better without random, endless drama that stems from simple questions and attempts at constructive feedback, so keep the 18 years old screenshot resolutions and go about your business. :)
added on the 2018-07-23 17:40:45 by gloom gloom
You literally started the thread with "tl;dr" so don't talk to me about being constructive.
added on the 2018-07-23 17:57:16 by Gargaj Gargaj
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18 years old screenshot resolutions

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640x480
added on the 2018-07-23 18:33:27 by havoc havoc
640x480 would be a good compromise specifically because it covers ~99.5% of indexed-color palettized screen modes you'd want to add, making it unnecessary to scale them. Scaling those usually involves an RGB conversion and increases their file size. A couple blank rows in the prod page doesn't spoil the layout IMHO.

Stuff that outputs in higher res is almost always RGB so it doesn't matter if it needs to be scaled.
added on the 2018-07-23 19:15:42 by jmph jmph
+1 jmph

And if you allowed up to 640x512 you would instantly make it more Amiga (as in 1985, which is 33 years ago).
added on the 2018-07-23 19:43:39 by noname noname
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unnecessary to scale

i'm willing to bet that many users will feel the necessity to doublepixel 320 screenshots for the sake of extra real estate, that's slightly over 0.5% of the archive ;)
added on the 2018-07-23 19:45:10 by havoc havoc
i'm always happy when i don't have to scale shit :D
bigger screenshots could be a small part of a complete - and imho much needed - UX refurbishing. but you all can imagine how well this change (or ANY change) would go within this community.. :DDD better leave everything this way i guess
added on the 2018-07-23 20:19:25 by nagz nagz
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but you all can imagine how well this change (or ANY change) would go within this community..


shoot me now
added on the 2018-07-23 22:39:31 by farfar farfar
Most platforms to feature on Pouet are 320x200/256 or even less, and only a few are the maximum of 1080p or greater. I think that 400x300 or whatever it is at the moment is absolutely fine as a one-size fits all, even though back when the size was being chosen there were probably NO 720p/1080p demos.

It's not so much the size of the pictures but the number of them for each prod: one picture to represent an entire prod is really not enough, and whilst animated GIFs solve that problem for a lot of Amiga prods, an equivalent is needed for Windows and other modern platforms, and NOT many smaller pictures in one big picture, neither.

Also, I've seen many prods here where the current screenshots are smaller even than 400x300. Perhaps if each platform had a standard size for the screenshots (also accounting for widescreen-capable platforms) then submissions could be accepted at ANY size and RESAMPLED to those standard sizes?

Lastly, if I look at a prod page and the screenshot doesn't quite give me enough information, then there's always the YouTube link, which will show me everything, or at least a whole lot more.

Just my two cents.
added on the 2018-07-24 09:43:33 by Foebane72 Foebane72
so LJ and i laughed about this thread and instead of writing even more nonsense, we wrote a browser extension/add on:

when visiting a prod page and if a demozoo id is set for the current prod, it displays a nice demozoo screenshot (if exist)
you can click to cycle through all screenshots.

firefox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/pouet-enhancement-suite/

chrome:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pouet-enhancement-suite/hmbklagmjmigcm pjabgjilamdecjmidh

code:
https://github.com/pandrr/pouet-enhancement-suite

there are some another planned feature, like directly embed youtube video on the page, confiurable, themes etc. etc. but don't hold your breath :)

disclaimer: this is just a quick hack, never wrote an extension before, etc etc.

(if someone from demozoo reads this: is it possible to access a prod directly by pouet id ?)

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added on the 2018-07-25 12:43:04 by pandur pandur
How dare you show up out of nowhere with an easy and practical solution when you know the pouet-way is to discuss for an eternity and never really makes anyone happy in the end?

BASTARDS!
added on the 2018-07-25 13:22:55 by dwarf dwarf
I think someone should write a tool to fetch the screenshots from demozoo. Just an idea.
added on the 2018-07-25 13:55:07 by skarab skarab
Please don't. By the nature of the site the author should have (and de facto has) the authority on what the screenshot for their productions is.
added on the 2018-07-25 13:59:30 by noby noby
plugin :(
added on the 2018-07-25 14:18:21 by havoc havoc
the "plugin" is just ~20 lines of javascript code, which could just copy pasted to work on pouet directly in ~5 minutes.

just think of it as a proof of concept or testbed
added on the 2018-07-25 15:21:57 by pandur pandur
400x300 never bothered me at all to be honest.

To me, the screenshot on Pouet is a sneak peek, a preview, a way to recognize the prod, something that will give me an idea of what it's all about.
added on the 2018-07-25 15:24:04 by keops keops
I no more create prod exceeding 400x300 so I don't care either.
added on the 2018-07-25 15:25:36 by skarab skarab
why not just embed the youtube vid instead of a screenshot (in case the youtube link is added)?
/me runs
added on the 2018-07-25 15:30:29 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
i already knew that demozoo collects screenshots, apart from that what is this plugin supposed to prove?
added on the 2018-07-25 15:33:29 by havoc havoc
it is an implementation of gloom's idea of displaying higher resolution screenshots on pouet....
added on the 2018-07-25 15:37:36 by pandur pandur
ok so what's your solution for determining where/how scaling should be applied? none, i suppose?
added on the 2018-07-25 15:42:51 by havoc havoc

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