Links to Internet Archive?
category: general [glöplog]
Should we start considering adding internet archive links to demo profiles?
Some of them are starting to work...
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_SecondReality-FutureCrew
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Contrast-Oxygene
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Solstice-Valhalla
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Square-Pulse
https://archive.org/details/msdos_demoscene
Some of them are starting to work...
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_SecondReality-FutureCrew
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Contrast-Oxygene
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Solstice-Valhalla
https://archive.org/details/demoscene_Square-Pulse
https://archive.org/details/msdos_demoscene
hmmm
I'm ambivalent: It still runs awful, but at least it's not YouTube.
Believe it or not, while this is largely my thing over there at the Archive, I think it'd be great if it was running within scene.org itself. DEFACTO2 does a pretty amazing version of the emulator with additional features useful to the demoscene, and are more in line with Pouet's audience and needs.
https://defacto2.net/welcome
https://defacto2.net/welcome
yeah, better than linking would be to have the emulation available a click away, wether on scene.org, pouet.net or demozoo, it would be a nice feature to have while browsing the archive.
regardless of that, linking to archive.org versions of the files might be woth considering as extra item on the database. better than that would be the other way around, ensuring archive.org is storing all binaries linked on pouet.
one of the issues that still occurs, and that i would very much like to see mitigated, are binaries that once were online, linked on pouet as download links, and now are 404 and the file can not be found anywhere online anymore for one reason or another.
nowdays we encourage people to download those files and upload them to scene.org as a more reliable backup, but would be nice to ensure a proper crawling is happening regularly.
regardless of that, linking to archive.org versions of the files might be woth considering as extra item on the database. better than that would be the other way around, ensuring archive.org is storing all binaries linked on pouet.
one of the issues that still occurs, and that i would very much like to see mitigated, are binaries that once were online, linked on pouet as download links, and now are 404 and the file can not be found anywhere online anymore for one reason or another.
nowdays we encourage people to download those files and upload them to scene.org as a more reliable backup, but would be nice to ensure a proper crawling is happening regularly.
You can add those links to Demozoo's production pages (example)
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I'm ambivalent: It still runs awful, but at least it's not YouTube.
I'm honestly not sure how well this holds up for me personally. I think a video properly captured/encoded from real hardware might beat emulation in regards to accurate representation, but it does take the real-time aspect away, and from what I see, a lot of video captures aren't even full framerate, sometimes even compressed to death, so in that case a ready-to-go emulator that will improve over time doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.
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it does take the real-time aspect away
So does a bad emulator. I'd rather see a bad youtube video of the demo running on real hardware, than the demo running in an emulator that is so off it is misrepresenting how the demo actually runs on real hardware.
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a ready-to-go emulator that will improve over time
That is the hope, yes.