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Revision 2016 - 25th to 28th March - Saarbrücken, Germany

category: parties [glöplog]
Way too short yet awesome party for me. Extremely well organized and even though I had to witness the Sunday compos via sofa it gave me the best feeling possible because of a very stabile and improved broadcasting.

Regarding the issues Aceman brought up I say I can understand both sides. But it just feels somehow wrong with me to recycle demo assets to fill other compos. Been there, done that, but I wouldn't do it again. My personal opinion is: you either make a track for a compo or you make a track for a prod. Filling up the compo if there are enough other entries for a decent competition just grabs the spotlight from the other tracks composers worked on hard exclusively for the compo and in the worst case, causes preselection on exclusively written music. Additionally it may spoil things to come in the later demo compos.

Blame me for that, but just my 2ct
added on the 2016-03-28 21:10:41 by Triace Triace
+1 for not recycling demo assets in other compos.

btw jazzcat, completely off-topic but I implemented the DigiBooster Echo DSP in the upcoming OpenMPT and your old DBMs now sound gorgeous in it :)
Awesome party! From my sofa I send huge thanks to everyone involved :D

Would be awesome to have a youtube playlist of all the jingles, just like Revision 2013 Jingles playlist. I really dig them. Whoever composes them is pure genius.

Re: the app — people who install the app already know what demoscene is and what Revision is. I think timetable should be the main page, preferrably with a highlight of the nearest event, because timezones . Notifications were excellent, I didn't miss anything.
added on the 2016-03-28 21:47:13 by svo svo
At home, tired but ... man ... that was a hell of a party. Great organisation, awesome (!) compos and nice people. Thanks to the team for making it happen again!

Whoever composes them is pure genius.

-> JCO
added on the 2016-03-28 21:52:21 by gaspode gaspode
Eh, not to be taken wrong, but.. If demo stuff is being spoiled by its music being used in other, previous compos.. It is more a disadvantage for that demos maybe than an advantage the other way round, no? 😉
added on the 2016-03-28 21:52:49 by Dascon Dascon
Oh, most important: thanks for that awesome party! Infected and tired, but happy!
added on the 2016-03-28 21:53:53 by Dascon Dascon
Please don't allow using the same content in exe and msx/gfx compos. It's fucking lame.

No. Exactly the opposite. Demos should have good groovy listenable music. I don't like unlistenable music in demos. I'm all for demo sound tracks that work in music compos as well.

I think asking for more content disallowing rules is lame. What is it that you'd like to achieve with that anyway.
added on the 2016-03-28 22:16:34 by yzi yzi
I think asking for more content disallowing rules is lame. What is it that you'd like to achieve with that anyway.

It goes the other way around - people entering a tune / image they already composed / pixelzed for a demo into a music / graphics compo. That doesn't make the demo soundtrack worse.

Eh, not to be taken wrong, but.. If demo stuff is being spoiled by its music being used in other, previous compos..

It's not about spoiling each other, but rather claiming two trophies for the same thing (which didn't happen this year as far as I'm currently aware but did in previous years).

Plus, I really don't need to hear the same tune or see the same pixels twice at the party.
Maybe a good time to branch the discussion off to its own topic?
added on the 2016-03-28 22:39:29 by Gargaj Gargaj
Come on, I was forced to hear several stuff like a hundred times the last three days and did stand it. Though I guess I will miss the compo jingle to orrow at the office a bit. 😂
added on the 2016-03-28 22:41:32 by Dascon Dascon
Thank you to all the organizers, sponsors, compo participants and friendly sceners from the party for a great experience. Awesome party.
added on the 2016-03-28 22:44:32 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
So you are asking for _rules_ for preventing you from getting bad feelings, displeased with a demo or a song or something? There's this thing called "voting" where people usually tend to channel their feelings if they got bad vibes from prods. Don't vote if you didn't like it. You have a problem with that? Not powerful enough, you need organizers to set rules?
added on the 2016-03-28 22:44:37 by yzi yzi

Ok, maybe " lame" was a little too harsh. I wrote that post during pc demo compo, while watching that awesome unity demo using tune previously played in streaming msx. I got upset (again) and decided to brag about it.

It has been discussed before among people, but i believe nobody said it out loud. I think it's time. Didn't I told you about it before? I should.

As for "why" - what Triace and Saga said.
added on the 2016-03-28 22:52:00 by AceMan AceMan
Can someone elaborate the voting, please?

It must be a bit more complicated than just vote for one entry.
added on the 2016-03-28 22:53:46 by JTZ JTZ
yzi: Just stop interpreting things into what we said. Read Triace's post again. Then read mine. Carefully.
yzi: To clarify once more: There is a rule against releasing demos into compos that have already been released in the past. Would you argue the same way that this rule is not needed and "voting should just fix it"? If a large part of the assets of a demo is reused (and I consider already a single soundtrack alone or an iconic still image to be large) at the very same party, I just find it pretty lame and an obvious attempt to just win more compos. This has nothing to do with me feeling bad about a demo - in fact I like all demos at this year's Revision that have content shared in other compos in all other aspects. Why not just be creative and make two entries if you want to enter two compos?
Why not just be creative and make two entries if you want to enter two compos?

added on the 2016-03-28 23:04:26 by Triace Triace
So. Someone made a good song for a demo, and the song is so good that it's actually better than someone else's "proper" music compo entry. The demo song however must not be entered in the music compo, because then the less good song won't be played?

To me it is just obvious, and a scene tradition, to use a demo song or picture in the separate music or graphics compos, as long as it's on the same party. It's "released" only after the party. What is the problem with this. Someone makes a mind-blowingly superb picture. You must choose if you want to put that in a demo or the graphics compo!?? That would be dumb.

IMO, the ultimate thing for a musician or graphician is to both win the music or graphics compo AND have the same piece as part of a winning demo at the same party. Home-run, bullseye.
added on the 2016-03-28 23:21:50 by yzi yzi
I made a thread about it. Let's get back to praising Revision here ;)
added on the 2016-03-28 23:26:44 by dojoe dojoe
I don't see any need for banning re-use of assets. Such assets will for sure even get their full score for the music/gfx compo. But it will make the demo feel less like a whole thing as people will recognise that music/gfx and kind of mentally subtract it.
added on the 2016-03-28 23:34:27 by Kabuto Kabuto
oops... too late, my fault, can't delete... back to topic please :)
added on the 2016-03-28 23:35:01 by Kabuto Kabuto
Off to new thread with this side line. Needs discussing.
added on the 2016-03-28 23:36:28 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Thank you for the great party!

I was so happy that I was well enough to travel and be there, see the compos and meet people. <3
added on the 2016-03-29 00:14:12 by rimina rimina
Finally home.

I didn't think 2015 could be topped as a catharsis, but I guess lightning does strike twice to the same spot every so often, and I'm glad it does.

A huge (yooge?) expression of gratitude to the organizers who gave us the opportunity to spar in front of a thousand people, and once again just big big love to Mercury - you guys are probably the best thing that has happened to the scene in this generation <3
added on the 2016-03-29 01:57:51 by Gargaj Gargaj
FINAL Evilbot Picture Edition now @LINK Hope you all had a pleasant trip home. See you next year! ~8]
added on the 2016-03-29 02:48:04 by viscid viscid


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