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Btw, someone should upset all these strange SMS people and submit a Mega Drive demo (which uses only the Z80 and YM and that silly Master System graphics mode) into an Sega 8-bit compo. :)

I think I said it, or atleas i thunk of saying it...can you read other peoples minds?
No but what I mean was a PPC compo that could consist of Computers with PPC. So hence the MAC thing.

But just to fuck up the mood abit more. What about thoose COLDFIRE cards, aint they 68xxx? Then what? :D

8 dayz left....tFt is feeling butterflies :D
Krabob:Are you comming to BP? I think me and Darkhawk spoke to you on MS2002, and you showed us alot of PPC demos....cool to meet up with you again if you visit BP this year.

(je je haters, I know this aint no chat forum)

tft: Yes, that idea for a PPC compo existed. But after the anouncment of Intel Macs the argument became less powerful.

No problem, pouetizing lame threads is well, we Germans say "ein fester und (durchaus) erwarteter Bestandteil". ;)
A lame thread without pouetizing itself is like a day without a demo - not really worth itself.

MadenMann: Yeah, and it only runs on Mega Drive. :D

MadenMann: Anyways, that Video of a 32X Demo is the only 32X demo that hasnt been deleted from those Developer's jackasses. (Want smooth texture mapped Vectors on 32X? Play MetalHead! Quake 1 could have been converted too with that engine, hehe. Just don't use all those Physics...)

Anyways, if you Amiga guys want to be really really REALLY cool, code some demos on the Sega Mega CD and use the HAM-Mode on it or use the Video Processor in it to make sound. Or code a VCD Player for it? come on. If you PPC guys really want to push "Hardware add-ins" to the limits, try something that has not such a bad looking Future instead of "CD Technology", "Audio Accelleration and in-chip mixing" or "3D accelleration".

PPC is doomed, you don't read newspapers, or do you guys have started a "IBM give us Amiga G6 Processor"-Petition?

Anyways, the Mega CD is also pretty Oldschool nowadays but in 1993 it was something really cool to have. Back then i just couldnt afford the 450 D-Marks....

Also, I do not hate Amiga, Amiga PPC, Amiga PPC Demos, Amiga PPC Demosceners, Amiga PPC Demosceners attitude or Amiga PPC Demosceners attitude doing nothing but complaining about everything. But the WORLD, dudes!

You think it's smart to give them ideas like that?

Shifter: Heh. I'm sorry for that one.

Just remembered that this year due to heavy complaints from the Amiga musicians last year, there are DBM entries allowed and will be played using WinUAE. I think that's a really nice move and has to be appreciated by DOING DBM-ENTRIES.

Somebody asked about the comparison of Amigas with cars. Having an old car in the garage and tune it and work on it all the weekend, thereby spending lots of money for replacement part that have to be shipped from far far away and so on...it's just hobbies, you know. No space for rationality! ;)

So is the PPC dead now?

I've not seen a PPC demo for AGES. I thought there might be some surprise entries at Assembly, but nope!

I was never a fan of the PPC, but I was a fan of PPC groups like Mawi and Potion. What has happened to those guys?

life, I guess

PPC Amiga demos could make a comeback soon I guess but ONLY if: 1. the promised new AmigaOS4 Amiga operating system is released along with the new "up-to-date" PPC hardware (1.5-2GHz PPC proprietary Amiga-Tech (TM) "licensed" systems) or 2. Amiga sceners wake-up to the already available PPC based Pegasos II systems which run MorphOS (a closely related AmigaOS clone). I have heard that some of the TBL guys already own a Peg2, namely Kalms and that they may produce a demo for that system soon? So who knows. I myself have decided to buy a Peg2 and install MorphOS as I'm pretty bored of waiting around for AOS4 and phantom new hardware.

basically, nobody is interested in producing new PPC Amiga demos anymore because the system specs of those machines range from 160-800MHz. They're neither "classic" fixed-spec machines (like the old Amiga 68k based systems) nor are they new and powerful bringing new possibilities. The tech of "current" Amiga PPC is just inbetween and stuck in nothing-land...non-definable and null-void! Not to mention the fact that the hardware is nolonger manufactured and very few sceners own such hardware so there is no audience for your productions anyway.

Maybe just accept your hardware is dead and buy a Macbook Pro?

and that was about two years ago, btw.

okkie: nah thanks, Macs have no soul. the closest thing to a soul that computer has is a "trendy" image manufactured by their marketing dept. it's a popular lamers computer (even more so than a PC)

btw. it's a well known fact that Classic Amigas have an actual organic heart inside! they cry, laugh, shed tears...just like a human. That's why so many ppl are passionate about their amys.

@hellfire: so? Nexus 7 took over two years to produce. :)

klipper: please tell me you're joking.. please..

Amiga is a hobby. Demoscening is a hobby. The relative commercial viability of the platform is irrelevant; hence I still use and enjoy all my Amigas right from my A500 up to my AmigaOne.

Hell, I plan to make an Atari Lynx demo at some point. Should I not bother because its a dead platform?

Coolness!

Please feel free to bother!

oooohh, so NOW you feel guilty about inprisoning that poor Amiga in your loft for so many years, eh? now you know it LIVES!!

:P

Somewhere, outside, people are crying because volkswagen dare to call their cars bugatti.

I mean, there is a line to be drawn between the classic hardware and software, as designed by the original engineer, with their own particular life and goals, and the wholly different pieces of high-pressure sand that constitute those amigaone, pegasos machines. They're not even replicas!

i seriously recommend reconsidering.

klipper: yeah, i've been using one as a doorstop for several years now.. now i understand why it's crying so much :)

y

okki: we must be on the same mystical wave-lenght today, i think we both posted at the same moment. the "y" was ment for Hellfire :P

and you're just a mean amiga-abuser! :)

ofcourse i am! but it deserves it! It keeps showing me boring tbl demos (oooh! crossing a thin line here! :D)

I wish my non-accelerated a1200 could do that, actually :)

Now if I could make the effort of at least hooking it up to my lcd monitor. I mean through a video capture card. The last 1084s I tried to buy got fucked in transportation. So hum, can I take the RGB pins straight out of a SCART plug? (striahgt into the video capture card)