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wikipedia deletions because we are not in... Freax

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Not very mainstream. Some times I go and speak to schools and universities about this. So they naturally ask for more information / websites, generally for the demoscene or specifically for ASD.

Of course I also get the point of the aesthetics of a website like Kewlers around 2005...
added on the 2024-09-18 12:56:18 by Navis Navis
Equinox got removed as well. Can't say that I care.

It's Wikipedia, it's not supposed to describe what every human being is busy doing on Earth during their spare time.

Watching the page history is almost funny though, some people should really focus their energy on building stuff instead of trying to erase stuff.
added on the 2024-09-18 16:32:42 by keops keops
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I'd be happier if that presence isn't mostly based on a single outdated and disputed book from 2005 :)


Oh, so much this. FWIW, by sheer accident, Freax was exchanged for a less disputed reference in a Polish version of Demoscene entry, so it’s doable.
added on the 2024-09-18 21:28:29 by angelo angelo
as there are several print publications about the demoscene by now im sure asd is featured in at least one of them?
added on the 2024-09-18 22:57:01 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
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Sceen #2 (2007) with Navis on the cover.

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I also got issue #1, which features another very important demoscener on the cover. :]
added on the 2024-09-19 02:13:35 by ham ham
Today, we live in a world where such screenshots of fake publications, linking to fake websites with fake forums where thousands of fake users, all with their little personal quirks discuss non-existing groups and their non-existing demos are a few clicks away. Hell, with some clever planning, some "AI" bot/script could even order hardcopies of the invented book from somewhere like Lulu, get an ISBN, even distribute to stolen scener's addresses.
Welcome to the world where everything (Wiki certainly included) becomes irrelevant because everything is easily fakeable. The world brought to you by techbros and their LLMs. One of the strongest applauses for this world I've experienced was (and as far as I know still is) performed by none other than ham.
added on the 2024-09-19 09:18:35 by 4gentE 4gentE
All that because of the fact that some people do not figure in the online Encyclopedia?
Please. Please...

So what can say Shintaro Uda (the assitant of Dr. Hidetsugu Yagi) when after his hard work, he was forgotten(?) as the principal author (and finally the co-author) of the OTA antenna, while filling the US patent for (US patent N°1-860-123, granted in 1932).
Althou, his - Shintaro Uda's - contribution was properly mentionned in the Japanese Patent from 1926 (Japanese patent N° 69115), granted almost immediately.

Have a great day, gus! =)
added on the 2024-09-19 10:57:56 by sim sim
now I'm wondering where is my SCEEN mag #1 issue
what about sceen #3
added on the 2024-09-19 13:42:22 by havoc havoc
It has not been sceen b4
added on the 2024-09-19 20:17:51 by v3nom v3nom
The pouet BBS is not a webmail page, Magic.
added on the 2024-09-20 12:10:23 by sagacity sagacity
Saga, little pun intended ofcourse ;) but.. quite sure Navis can forward it if he wants to..
added on the 2024-09-20 13:04:10 by magic magic
{{Unreliable source?}}
added on the 2024-09-20 17:14:25 by phoenix phoenix
Pun intended, but there's no pun?

Mind blown
added on the 2024-09-20 17:54:15 by sagacity sagacity
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The article on ASD has now been returned in a draft form where it can be edited and its deletion can be discussed again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andromeda_Software_Development
What happens next is up to us.


Thanks for the initiative, la_mettrie. Added a few more references and straightened out the language a bit.
added on the 2024-09-20 18:12:50 by dipswitch dipswitch
Really...
The World has been saved...
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added on the 2024-09-23 21:34:25 by sim sim
This certainly is one of the best threads lately. lol
added on the 2024-09-26 01:42:05 by groepaz groepaz
Generative design materials in DIY digital art creation (2012) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253340723_Generative_Design_Materials

EDGE #173 (2007) - Supplement: Nordic Game Industry - avalanche https://archive.org/details/EDGE.N173.2007.03-Supplement.Nordic.Game.Industry-avalanche/page/n9/mode/2up?q=andromeda

GDC 2016: Chris Birke - "Math for Game Programmers: Implicit Function Raytracing" https://archive.org/details/GDC2016Birke/page/n17/mode/2up?q=andromeda+demoscene

maybe ?
added on the 2024-09-26 21:58:10 by fra fra
The last one by Chris Birke is nice : funny, very light read, and useful as a refresher, I think, or to discover this rendering tech step-by-step. Also, I knew Kali from Shadertoy (the guy is impressive, honestly) but seeing his face is good ! :) Hey, btw quick question : didn't he discover some kind of fractal back in the days ? Or am I confusing him with another guy ?
added on the 2024-09-26 23:15:03 by TomS4wy3R TomS4wy3R
LOL. Wikipedia editors must be the ones who weren't good enough even to be redditors. I could tell a thing or two about the Hungarian ones, and how they imagine "accuracy" and "impartiality".
added on the 2024-09-27 01:49:00 by tomcatmwi tomcatmwi
What the article needs is a limited set of examples to drive in the concepts.
And there is very few of those that actually describes the prod, effects and what makes them unique.

Second Reality is the only one that does this and has a decent place in the article within an image/link template.
Linger in shadows is written differently but does give an (synopsis) and a screenshot, this is not used in the article.
The article on Chaos Theory has no image.

The only other Image/example in the article just a screenshot of Interceptor.
None of the images are screenshots of effects

We won't get the equivelant of the spongbob episode list or the same reverance as IMDB has(and we don't need one) as everyone here agrees with.
But if we take a look how individual spongbob episode article stays up, and the few articles of singular prods(Second Reality, Chaos Theory, Linger In shadow).

I think we can still manage to create a handful decent articles, which can be linked/image-templated throughout the article.

This article https://www.techradar.com/news/computing/10-of-the-coolest-demoscene-creations-715166 should tick the notability boxes. Because as far as I understand it's articles like this from verified/thrusted sources is what justifies making individual spongebob articles in the first place. Even if it is just about top-ten guest apperances in spongebob.

https://www.techradar.com/news/about-us should be good enough for wikipedia.

This article gives us the possibility to make showcase articles which we can in editing the main Demoscene article. It has all the meat and potatoes like Elevated(4K), Craft by Lft(Wild), State Of the Art(AMIGA)...etc,etc.

Oh and also a bit of ammo to save the ASD article ;)
added on the 2024-10-01 17:16:48 by Deus Deus
Oh! I'm talking about the main Demoscene article and general demoscene wikipedia presence if that wasn't clear.
added on the 2024-10-01 17:42:58 by Deus Deus

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