Happy 30th Anniversary Red Sector Inc. !
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In the meantime, http://sagamusix.de/other/timelord/
In order that my message doesn't get swallowed by the new thread page having been opened, here is my message once again:
Dear Baudsurfer. I have no intention at all to lead a personal crusade against you. Your remarkable sizecoding has without doubt secured you a lasting place place in scene history. And this is the reason why I wonder even more why you need to hold up this story that is incredible to say the least. I am simply wondering about why you did not bring up any sensible argument against what reed has brought forward, that's all. You are not denying that you were KOZMIK in the 2000s (and it would be quite impossible to deny). Then why in the whole course of your NE career you never ever raised the issue of your RSI past - not even in the interview you gave?
I have no idea what "scene politics" are. But I know what scene history is, and I don't like people tampering with it. Again, this is nothing personal. As an activist in several scene history preservation projects, I just want clarity - and I got none from you yet, neither here nor in your bellicose posts over at Demozoo. This is why the whole Demozoo staff cannot accept your tampering with the database.
Also, I am really curious: why are you celebrating RSI's 30th anniversary all alone? I know that you blatantly ignore Irata and his authority, but where is Bill Best, where is Greg? Have the original Canadian members all died? Or did they lose interest in the scene? I'm sorry to destroy your illusions (and probably hopes) in that regard, but I know for a fact that they are alive and around, and that they follow this issue with bewilderment, to say the least (and don't even think of creating sock puppets in their name at Pouet or anywhere else).
Once again, I am not the least interested in any personal war, I just utter the questions that are not just on my mind.
Dear Baudsurfer. I have no intention at all to lead a personal crusade against you. Your remarkable sizecoding has without doubt secured you a lasting place place in scene history. And this is the reason why I wonder even more why you need to hold up this story that is incredible to say the least. I am simply wondering about why you did not bring up any sensible argument against what reed has brought forward, that's all. You are not denying that you were KOZMIK in the 2000s (and it would be quite impossible to deny). Then why in the whole course of your NE career you never ever raised the issue of your RSI past - not even in the interview you gave?
I have no idea what "scene politics" are. But I know what scene history is, and I don't like people tampering with it. Again, this is nothing personal. As an activist in several scene history preservation projects, I just want clarity - and I got none from you yet, neither here nor in your bellicose posts over at Demozoo. This is why the whole Demozoo staff cannot accept your tampering with the database.
Also, I am really curious: why are you celebrating RSI's 30th anniversary all alone? I know that you blatantly ignore Irata and his authority, but where is Bill Best, where is Greg? Have the original Canadian members all died? Or did they lose interest in the scene? I'm sorry to destroy your illusions (and probably hopes) in that regard, but I know for a fact that they are alive and around, and that they follow this issue with bewilderment, to say the least (and don't even think of creating sock puppets in their name at Pouet or anywhere else).
Once again, I am not the least interested in any personal war, I just utter the questions that are not just on my mind.
that timelord story should be read with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO5HU_7_1w in the background
I wonder why people have to fight constantly. Even in such seemingly unimportant hire like the demoscene, which generally hyped themselves. Sorry... But this endless drama sucks and is embarrassing....
The demoscene becomes so uninterested because of this childish behavor, that it is not important who is using what groupnames. Instead of creating something together, all fuckin each other. WTF.
I read comments of some people which called me a kid or a lamer in 2007 because i wrote childish stuff. Find the misstake.
If Baudsurfer's opinion is to be a veteran of Red Sector, and to go on under this Label, why should he not do it? Who care's. If you read the comments here everything sounds more like jealousy. No one begrudge something to others.
Come one. Stop that shit now, be friendly and have fun together. That's demoscene. Pure fun not that fuckin drama.
Happy 30th Anniversarry RSI, whomever it belongs or belonged...!
The demoscene becomes so uninterested because of this childish behavor, that it is not important who is using what groupnames. Instead of creating something together, all fuckin each other. WTF.
I read comments of some people which called me a kid or a lamer in 2007 because i wrote childish stuff. Find the misstake.
If Baudsurfer's opinion is to be a veteran of Red Sector, and to go on under this Label, why should he not do it? Who care's. If you read the comments here everything sounds more like jealousy. No one begrudge something to others.
Come one. Stop that shit now, be friendly and have fun together. That's demoscene. Pure fun not that fuckin drama.
Happy 30th Anniversarry RSI, whomever it belongs or belonged...!
Daxx, care to elaborate what exactly reed should be jealous about? =)
Reed shouldn't be jealous about anything, because he singlehandedly wrote Debris 2, the greatest C64 demo of all time, released at Revision 2004 which took place on the moon!!!
YAAAY THE DEMOSCENE IS SO MUCH MORE FUN NOW THAT WE'VE STOPPED CARING ABOUT HISTORICAL ACCURACY AND EVERYONE'S OPINION IS ACCEPTED AS TRUE!!!!11
YAAAY THE DEMOSCENE IS SO MUCH MORE FUN NOW THAT WE'VE STOPPED CARING ABOUT HISTORICAL ACCURACY AND EVERYONE'S OPINION IS ACCEPTED AS TRUE!!!!11
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If Baudsurfer's opinion is to be a veteran of Red Sector, and to go on under this Label, why should he not do it?
Okay. By the way, I am one of the founders of Ravebusters, daXX is just an imposter!
To be fair, some folks released under NEXTEMPIRE that were not in the group, long after the group dissolved and after some of their members got different handles and joined "real" groups. But since NE was an annoying/awesome running joke, nobody cared and people had fun and moved on.
That does not mean that groups in general, even as "labels", are meaningless and everybody can use any name for whatever purpose now, as much fun and confusion that would bring. If we'd do that, we would need to abandon the concept of "group" altogether and shorty afterwards all go by "anonymus_demoscener (probably not smash)", because nicks would be equally meaningless too.
That does not mean that groups in general, even as "labels", are meaningless and everybody can use any name for whatever purpose now, as much fun and confusion that would bring. If we'd do that, we would need to abandon the concept of "group" altogether and shorty afterwards all go by "anonymus_demoscener (probably not smash)", because nicks would be equally meaningless too.
gasman said
I searched for this prod on both pouet.net and csdb and found nothing, I am very interested so I don't know if it's a joke or not...
/me le *DERP*
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Reed shouldn't be jealous about anything, because he singlehandedly wrote Debris 2, the greatest C64 demo of all time, released at Revision 2004 which took place on the moon!!!
I searched for this prod on both pouet.net and csdb and found nothing, I am very interested so I don't know if it's a joke or not...
/me le *DERP*
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It was? for real? A joke group?
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But since NE was an annoying/awesome running joke, nobody cared and people had fun and moved on.
It was? for real? A joke group?
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To be fair, some folks released under NEXTEMPIRE that were not in the group
That wasn't NEXTEMPIRE, it was NEXT EMPIRE.
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That wasn't NEXTEMPIRE, it was NEXT EMPIRE.
What about this? There are likely other examples.
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It was?
Is that a rhetorical question? It was not an intentional one, but that's what it was.
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I searched for this prod on both pouet.net and csdb and found nothing, I am very interested so I don't know if it's a joke or not...
lol
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released at Revision 2004
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which took place on the moon!!!
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I am very interested so I don't know if it's a joke or not...
priceless :)
it isnt true unless you changed wikipedia about it!
Well, reed also performed live at Breakpoint 2020, so I don't really see what's wrong with what gasman wrote!
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Quote:If Baudsurfer's opinion is to be a veteran of Red Sector, and to go on under this Label, why should he not do it?
Okay. By the way, I am one of the founders of Ravebusters, daXX is just an imposter!
Saga i understand your point. But it seens you not mine. When so much sceners knows whos the veterans of rsi... why vorigen then on baudsurfers new releases? Ignoring should work better then... Is better than draaaama ...
should be voting ... not vorigen... mobilphone autocorrection...
And btw... my posting wasn't against reed or not personally against others... I just think that this discussion about rsi / trsi / trs is embarrassing...
@xtr1m: haaaaaaa my bad, I read too fast, thought it was "revision 2014" didn't noticed the reference to a location "on the moon", in fact I was just focused on the fact that reed coded something on C64 :D
Missed this thread back than.. Oh wel...
Jesus Christ, can you stop bumping these threads.
Gargaj might as well close it now.
Gargaj might as well close it now.
Yeah.