pouët.net

heh.. damn, you beat me to it, i was just going to say that :)

Wow :) I wish I'd known about this before... thanks!

ok, since my previous posts may have sounded like pointless whining, i'll try to make my point more clear.

what annoys me most about analogue's behaviour is that it does not take into account the opinions of people who actually made the site what it is, namely the active users, particularly the ones in the glöp top-20 (apart from blackpanther with his dickhead scripting). we probably have invested more time and effort in this site than all webdevelopers together. and were we asked whether we want open source, or whether we want to wait for 2.0? no! and this really pisses me off.

Misfortune comes on horseback and goes away on foot.

This.

@ v3nom - valid point , the db contains both (prod info and image threads) if you want to have a bbs you have to have both. So far.

But because this is a site where you have to register and then login, the db also contains emails, websites and all sorts of other tid-bits of information about the users which is readable in plain text in an sql db.

ringo: sure these have to be removed of course. but you are able to select which tables to dump, and i know the db-layout is said to be pretty bad, but i'm sure they were sane enough to not store user-data and prod-data in the same table. (that would be hilarious, tho)

Preacher: that has been in place for years :D I don't know why i ever browsed pouet without it :)

dip: you were asked (see, there's question mark in the topic of this thread). you were just ignored when the answer wasn't the one analogue wanted..

dipswitch, gloom: The content has not been open sourced, only the site-logic. In other words, nothing you have any legal nor moral rights to dictate.

This is pouet, baby! ;)

OK. But has anybody asked you to contribute or has it been your own decision?

Oh god that img setting, why did I never see that? Goddamn shitty ponies be gone forever \o/

adok, piss off.

It's in the issue tracker also, btw. :)

I've followed the thread and kept silent (while getting more and more pissed off and then depressed). Time to end that I reckon.

Analogue reappearing after so long, and offering to open source pouet. That was really great to see - the site has stayed as it is for so long, and a proper API so we can use the data in other places, awesome!

Then we learn the 0.9 code is an ancient mess that needs a rewrite.

But wait.. gargaj is doing that exact rewrite! Except he's been on it for 5 years, which yes, is about 4 years too long, but at least we can see it running and mostly done.

So gargaj asks for a couple of months to finish it, then we can take it from there. I really thought the thread would be over at that point - the site has been running for years without any real changes, there's no imminent threat facing it, so there's no rush. Wait for gargaj to get his shit together, and move on.

And what happens instead? Gargaj loses database access, as does everyone else but analogue it seems. He's basically given the boot.

Then analogue publishes the 0.9 code *without* doing a code review first, there are exploits visible in the code, and gargaj actually submits a bunch of fixes.

So we're left with the guy who's been running the site (generally trouble free) for the last 5+ years and writing pouet 2.0 effectively kicked out, and the guy who's been missing for years taking complete control and asking our help fixing the old pile of crap code.

Well, fuck that. I don't see any point at all in working on the 0.9 code, beyond fixing security issues or obvious bugs as an interim measure. And I'm seriously unhappy that analogue has taken control of the site like this - it's about as far from "open" as it can get.

So I have a suggestion. We, the users of pouet (who've had an account more than a week and ideally done more than post on the random image thread ;) vote for somebody to take over the running of the site, and get it through this little 'rough patch'. A bit of actual democracy and real openness.

What do you all reckon? I'm assuming analogue and gargaj would be 'candidates', anyone else? And will analogue actually listen to and respect the result?

And analogue, before you accuse me of being the 'gargaj fanclub', I've never met the guy, haven't talked to him on IRC or elsewhere. At the start of this thread, he had my respect for his demos and his pouet admin work. You had my respect for setting this site up and running it in the early years. At the end of this thread, gargaj has won about as much respect as you've unfortunately lost.

This will end in tears...

Why can't you all just get a bong?

added all the lines from the todo list into githubs issues.
feel free to comment on the relevancy of each one or add any relevant issue that wasn't listed but should really be fixed by now.
https://github.com/lra/pouet.net/issues?state=open

That's easy, we delete analogue.

@ps: I vote for database dump.

What psonice and mog said. The fact that people haven't yet told Analogue "Thanks, but no thanks - go away" is quite surprising.

couldn't be more well-put than psonice did.

psonice summed it up pretty good. Can we beat the ugliness of the LibAV/ffmpeg fork?

Let's see how much the current administration can cope with controversial opinions.