who wants to teach me some shit?
category: general [glöplog]
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If it is suposed to be a black screen is great!
yeah it was supposed to be
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Your Best Physical Feature: None
Do you think you are Attractive: No
In the past month have you gone on a Date: No
Do you Smoke: Yes
In the past month have you Drank Alcohol: Yes
naturally born demo-coder! \o/
yeah, it's been a bad month. lol
this senseless thread revival is sponsored by Hugi, the one and only diskmag run by mongoloids, nazis, clueless twats, asocialists and combinations of the aforementioned stereotypes.
haha if u look it drumming with its dick lol
christmaali: and mensa members
Hey maali, when you put it that way, maybe i should send an aplication to join hugi some time soon ;)
Christmaali is the only one missing in this collection :) He unites all of these attributes in one person.
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but, i'd do almost anything to make demos like some of you guys.
Would you do this, if we told it was necessary?
lo and behold, eventually somebody will turn up who falls for even the lamest thread revival.
rainmaker, there's a problem with that. I know it's not necessary. So, probably not. Plus, i'd have to go out and find a black guy who would be willing to do that so I could take a picture of him.
i think the skin colour is optional. so do it...you know you want to!
Just get a computer. Get an internet connection. Download a C++ compiler. Google for C++ tutorials. And just play around. And after you have gotten a gripp of the syntax and crap like that start to look in to coding graphical things and when you are good at that start look in to optimization and perhaps take a course in Algorihms.
And like the swedish inventor Håkan Lans said: "There are no geniuses only nerds with no life"
And like the swedish inventor Håkan Lans said: "There are no geniuses only nerds with no life"
we can only show you the door...
you have to walk through it
dont look to us to teach you
look at what you know that you can teach us
and if a tree falls in the forest when no ones around...
ok nuff of that, seriously, dont ask people for help, id say most people on here were motivated enough to fight through it and find out for themselves, and it did them good, it did me good.
I might not be the best demo coder about, but if i could give some advice, it would be to dive into doing stuff on your own.
one of the best things you can learn (and this doesnt apply to demo coding but life) is to find shit out for yourself, and be resourceful.
Also, coding itself isnt that tough, coding itself is just mind numbing work, its the area-specific algorithms and the concepts behind it all thats the hard stuff - its like someone saying painting is hard, well its not, it depends what youre trying to paint.
A lot of beginners i know spend too much time worrying about syntax and languages, when thats the trivial side (quickly learned, easily forgotten), the important part is using languages to do something.
If you can, get a few books on graphics programming (if youre into that), check out the web for articles and tutorials. But watch out, the Internet whilst being a valuable tool, can also be a massive distraction. When I first delved into this stuff I was lucky in a way, that I had no internet at the time, id go to the library, take a memory stick and shove on articles that I could read when I got home. Its all too easy to fire up a video game and forget about it (dont do this!).
But when it comes down to it, you have to want it, badly - at least thats true for me. Keep yourself motivated and get stuck in.
Hope this has been helpful :)
Also, ignore the idiots on here, especially the ones posting pics of nude black guys, the scene is infested by unproductive arseholes that spam pouet. Get on IRC. Or even better, get coding :)
you have to walk through it
dont look to us to teach you
look at what you know that you can teach us
and if a tree falls in the forest when no ones around...
ok nuff of that, seriously, dont ask people for help, id say most people on here were motivated enough to fight through it and find out for themselves, and it did them good, it did me good.
I might not be the best demo coder about, but if i could give some advice, it would be to dive into doing stuff on your own.
one of the best things you can learn (and this doesnt apply to demo coding but life) is to find shit out for yourself, and be resourceful.
Also, coding itself isnt that tough, coding itself is just mind numbing work, its the area-specific algorithms and the concepts behind it all thats the hard stuff - its like someone saying painting is hard, well its not, it depends what youre trying to paint.
A lot of beginners i know spend too much time worrying about syntax and languages, when thats the trivial side (quickly learned, easily forgotten), the important part is using languages to do something.
If you can, get a few books on graphics programming (if youre into that), check out the web for articles and tutorials. But watch out, the Internet whilst being a valuable tool, can also be a massive distraction. When I first delved into this stuff I was lucky in a way, that I had no internet at the time, id go to the library, take a memory stick and shove on articles that I could read when I got home. Its all too easy to fire up a video game and forget about it (dont do this!).
But when it comes down to it, you have to want it, badly - at least thats true for me. Keep yourself motivated and get stuck in.
Hope this has been helpful :)
Also, ignore the idiots on here, especially the ones posting pics of nude black guys, the scene is infested by unproductive arseholes that spam pouet. Get on IRC. Or even better, get coding :)
@Hexxen
Wanna make some oldshool 4-ch mods?
http://www.systemofsound.org/ has a half-finished (more like 1/10th finished!-) AHX tute I'm working on. And you could find a contact for me to ask for advice.
I am always looking for ppl to swap music modules with.
I know some tricks, and promise not to laugh at your early attempts.
You don't have to make music in my unique/wierd style either.
Wanna make some oldshool 4-ch mods?
http://www.systemofsound.org/ has a half-finished (more like 1/10th finished!-) AHX tute I'm working on. And you could find a contact for me to ask for advice.
I am always looking for ppl to swap music modules with.
I know some tricks, and promise not to laugh at your early attempts.
You don't have to make music in my unique/wierd style either.
Where to get an AHX tracker for Windows? (WinAHX?)
Is a more general tracking tutorial available anywhere? Something that teaches you how to create a complete song if you just have a little melody in your head? How to create a bassline etc.?
I found one about chip music. It's in Hugi #14, Music Corner.
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Where to get an AHX tracker for Windows? (WinAHX?)
WinUAE+(Amiga)AHX is what you need. A REAL Amiga+AHX is what you want!
Or maybe Hively Tracker, if 4 channels just aint enough.
Oh, and WinAHX is just a player, and nowhere near as good/accurate as DeliPlayer.
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Is a more general tracking tutorial available anywhere? Something that teaches you how to create a complete song if you just have a little melody in your head? How to create a bassline etc.?
It's on it's way, basic music theory and getting the most out of four channels of 8-bit samples using OctaMED or ProTracker. Check the afore mentioned site again in a couple of months.
Personally I learned everything I know about 4chMOD composition by studying other peopled modules and reading CU Amiga. Just load up some of your favorite MOD's in any tracker and take a sneaky-peek. That's what I did (still do sometimes)! "Dig My Sublimini" by Quan/Up blew my mind.
Issue 1 of "the vague" (diskmag) has a generic tute (but mainly for fasttracker). And I seem to recall the ModPlug on-line help has a couple of useful titbits of info.
Tony Horgan (of CU Amiga) wrote some rather excellent tutorials, and anything I add to systemofsound on the topic of general composition using trackers is simply going to paraphrase him. Unfortunatley I don't think there is an on-line version of these, as they would be (C) Future Publishing. I may be able to slip you a pirate copy under the table (by email) if you like.
Contact me by mail, and I can test my rough draft tutorials out on you, and walk you through the basics.
But I think getting a book on traditional music theory may be more what you need. A little understanding of "Scales" and "Modes" goes a long way.
anakirob: Thanks! I'm looking forward to the tutorial at your site.
Gargaj: Makke often said that he knew little of music theory. And yet he was a good music composer. So there must be something else... (And don't forget the gypsy musicians in Hungary! They don't know music theory either and they're good!)
Gargaj: Makke often said that he knew little of music theory. And yet he was a good music composer. So there must be something else... (And don't forget the gypsy musicians in Hungary! They don't know music theory either and they're good!)
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...if you just have a little melody in your head?
Knowing scales and modes will give you the language skills you need to express the sound in your mind in a series of notes in your tracker software.
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And don't forget the gypsy musicians in Hungary! They don't know music theory either and they're good!)
I think you will find that they have their own unique musical theory passed down from parent to child for generations.
They also have "real instruments" (guitars, etc.). Indeed I would recommend getting yourself a guitar of keyboard. I often sit at my tracker software with a guitar in my lap as it gives me another creative angle to work with. But I am also armed with a knowledge of the octave to translate what I do on the neck of my guitar into the columns of my traker.
Musictheory.net has all the info you need and more. BUT...
...you might want to IGNORE all the stuff about traditional music notation if you are planning on using trackers to compose. It's not relevant to your (demoscene) culture.
You only need to know it if your planning on performing a recital of beethoven (etc.) or becoming a proffesional sesion musician.
Well, I know scales and notes, and I play the piano, but still I probably lack the talent to compose music.
Some of my puny attempts are at my homepage (Miscellaneous section).
Some of my puny attempts are at my homepage (Miscellaneous section).