Interesting movie on 9/11
category: general [glöplog]
Yeah interesting movie but I'm not really convinced about everything they say in it.
Yeah, of course we hate conspiracy theories, because we are so, so, SO intelligent... but...
... but yeah, still, where are the bodies and the wreckage?
Answer me just this little one please.
... but yeah, still, where are the bodies and the wreckage?
Answer me just this little one please.
probably under concreate in the dessert together with all top secret mumbo jumbo wich where damaged.
sparcus: I exactly think that way. They needed a "Pearl Harbour" event to get their people moving.
Well, they did indeed.
Well, they did indeed.
blah, 9/11 is soooooo 2001
adolf hitler also burned down the reichstag and claimed it was some (dutch?) terrorists.
just so you know.
just so you know.
The plane's remains are more then vague.
A B757 is an 80+ ton monster with 2 huge turbines.
This is a Global Hawk
A B757 is an 80+ ton monster with 2 huge turbines.
This is a Global Hawk
red: He said the commies did it
Seems like some ppl are obsessed with making up conspiracy theories, so they can keep denying how dangerous the islamic world is to the west.
Both sides make plausible arguments. But the movie makes a point which I think is most important:
Why keep information, video footage, etc secret? How can that benefit the security of the country?
Also, there is an american saying for these things that I find appropriate: "Follow the money".
A euroweenie.
Why keep information, video footage, etc secret? How can that benefit the security of the country?
Also, there is an american saying for these things that I find appropriate: "Follow the money".
A euroweenie.
The islamic world is not dangerous. Its religious fanatism is.
And religious fanatism is equally strong from both Islamic and Western countries.
And since pouetization of this thread is due, religion is CANCER.
And religious fanatism is equally strong from both Islamic and Western countries.
And since pouetization of this thread is due, religion is CANCER.
"The islamic world is not dangerous. Its religious fanatism is."
Do you know what Islam means?
Do you know what Islam means?
Not all religious people are fanatic. And that goes for islam as much for christians.
"religious fanatism is equally strong from both Islamic and Western countries"
If that's the case then I guess it's only because of all the muslims who has immigrated to the West.
If that's the case then I guess it's only because of all the muslims who has immigrated to the West.
grr
emigrated
sorry sorry sorry I'll go learn how to do more than count to 10 in suomi now
emigrated
sorry sorry sorry I'll go learn how to do more than count to 10 in suomi now
mot:
look up the world "islam" in an arabic dictionary, read some essential stuff about the monotheistic worldhistory god, compare christianity to islam.. do it, and lets see what you will come up with.
point is.. christianity isnt that hard on social rules, making most of the christians harmless, islam however is kindof the reverse. and no, i dont think the secularist of islam to be true muslims since they dont follow the most basic rules of islam. theyre kindof like jews with foreskins and eating pigs.
however, i dont blame religion for this wars at all, but on political ignorance and economics.
look up the world "islam" in an arabic dictionary, read some essential stuff about the monotheistic worldhistory god, compare christianity to islam.. do it, and lets see what you will come up with.
point is.. christianity isnt that hard on social rules, making most of the christians harmless, islam however is kindof the reverse. and no, i dont think the secularist of islam to be true muslims since they dont follow the most basic rules of islam. theyre kindof like jews with foreskins and eating pigs.
however, i dont blame religion for this wars at all, but on political ignorance and economics.
For the case of "islamic extremists" I may refer to books by some certain person who is very experienced on that matter, coz he was a CIA officer for covert operations in middle east from 1976 - 1996.
That person is Robert Baer.
He wrote books like See No Evil or The Saudi Connection, which provide the sore eye with amazing background facts one cannot spot by fetching the latest news.
George Clooney and Steven Soderbergh produced the movie Syriana on facts and some "what if-scenarios" Baer described in those books.
This guy is no conspiracy-bonehead. He just tells you from the side of an intelligence officer with 20 years experience what complicated relationship U.S. politics and the industrial lobby have with the house of Al Saud.
That's very interesting and lets you understand why some things are the way they are.
That person is Robert Baer.
He wrote books like See No Evil or The Saudi Connection, which provide the sore eye with amazing background facts one cannot spot by fetching the latest news.
George Clooney and Steven Soderbergh produced the movie Syriana on facts and some "what if-scenarios" Baer described in those books.
This guy is no conspiracy-bonehead. He just tells you from the side of an intelligence officer with 20 years experience what complicated relationship U.S. politics and the industrial lobby have with the house of Al Saud.
That's very interesting and lets you understand why some things are the way they are.
Sparcus:
Funny, but the page you've pointed is just a collection of dead links, and slow as hell. The few links which work contain no photos at all. Those which do only show unrecognizable, very small pieces of metal, claiming they are this and this part of the aircraft.
Funny, but all of these pieces are small enough to be stored in the building. If there's a conspiracy, that could've easily included placing a few real Boeing landing gears and one or two seats in empty rooms. How come there were only two seats found?
Funny, but the page you've pointed is just a collection of dead links, and slow as hell. The few links which work contain no photos at all. Those which do only show unrecognizable, very small pieces of metal, claiming they are this and this part of the aircraft.
Funny, but all of these pieces are small enough to be stored in the building. If there's a conspiracy, that could've easily included placing a few real Boeing landing gears and one or two seats in empty rooms. How come there were only two seats found?
Stefan/DXM seems to be not so hot on history. Christianity? respectful of social codes? Try to tell that to just about any pagan people who got sent christian (catholic or protestant) missionaries to, europe included. And not just in the past. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists anywhere, even if their idols may be different.
d0dge:
"Or did they want to kill the faithless workslaves that currently reinforced the empty wing of the building, did they?"
probably yes. it's called a "tantrum" or "show of force"... (if there was no conspiracy)... i find it hard to believe that the pentagon strike was "only" about supposed 'deicide'...
stefan:
have you forgotten that religion == ignorance (and vice versa)? intelligent and individual people do not need (or heed to) deities and prophets. only lemmings do...
"Or did they want to kill the faithless workslaves that currently reinforced the empty wing of the building, did they?"
probably yes. it's called a "tantrum" or "show of force"... (if there was no conspiracy)... i find it hard to believe that the pentagon strike was "only" about supposed 'deicide'...
stefan:
have you forgotten that religion == ignorance (and vice versa)? intelligent and individual people do not need (or heed to) deities and prophets. only lemmings do...
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have you forgotten that religion == ignorance (and vice versa)? intelligent and individual people do not need (or heed to) deities and prophets. only lemmings do...
Considering my favourite part about Lemmings was hitting the nuke button to blow them all up, I'd say your comment was more insightful than perhaps intended.
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but dont go belive in conspiracy theories now, we know Bush felt the need to warn us about this right after 911 for some odd reason, and told usnot to look at suspicsious (read: non nazi) web pages.
oh really, who might they be then?
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but dont go belive in conspiracy theories now, we know Bush felt the need to warn us about this right after 911 for some odd reason, and told usnot to look at suspicsious (read: non nazi) web pages.
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intelligent and individual people do not need (or heed to) deities and prophets. only lemmings do...
oh really, who might they be then?
I stopped it as soon as the first quote came to screen. I'm not watching a movie that's going to try to convince me of anything if they are in any way going to suggest Fox reporters are credible.
i was piss drunk when i wrote that. just ignore my post(s) :-)