LulzSec is killing the internet.
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ps: fox isn't exactly renowned for the quality of their reporting, i'd wait for confirmation from a news org that actually does news ;)
gargaj: that's exactly the impression I got too. Problem is, the geniuses sometimes put powerful tools in the hands of the idiots :(
gargaj: that's exactly the impression I got too. Problem is, the geniuses sometimes put powerful tools in the hands of the idiots :(
Also heh, 28yo unemployed father-of-two. Kids, let this be a lesson: Hack Responsibly!
News on the street is that Sabu, one of the Lulzsec crew is a FBI snitch and has been for a while now. And has been arrested, but still has internet access. Wat?
Ah, here's more info. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/stakeout-how-the-fbi-tracked-and-busted-a-chicago-anon.ars
He was arrested and admitted he was guilty. They gave him a choice: go to prison, or pretend nothing has happened and go back to the group as an FBI mole, and the judge will be a little easier when he goes to trial.
So he goes back to the group and continues with 'business as usual', but now he's reporting everything to the feds, and likely also setting the other guys up so they can be tracked and evidence can be collected. Some months later and the group is rolled up, bagged, and sent to prison.
The interesting question for me now is what happens to him? Does he still get a long jail sentence, perhaps a little less than the others, then shoved out on his ass with a large number of people out for revenge? Or does he get a new ID and a new home under witness protection?
So he goes back to the group and continues with 'business as usual', but now he's reporting everything to the feds, and likely also setting the other guys up so they can be tracked and evidence can be collected. Some months later and the group is rolled up, bagged, and sent to prison.
The interesting question for me now is what happens to him? Does he still get a long jail sentence, perhaps a little less than the others, then shoved out on his ass with a large number of people out for revenge? Or does he get a new ID and a new home under witness protection?
What are those peeps who are "out for revenge" gonna do- hack his cc? Deface his website? Poop on his doorstep?
wonder how long until the movie comes out
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The interesting question for me now is what happens to him?
I think the more interesting question is what happens to the much touted "collective hivemind" now that it's been (fairly easily) proven that it only takes one person fucking up to can 10 others.
rowley: 20 years in prison might be motivation enough to open the front door for once :)
gargaj: the collective hive mind will no doubt fail to learn the lessons and instead fire up LOIC and nuke some easy target that was in some way slightly involved. They're good at that.
gargaj: the collective hive mind will no doubt fail to learn the lessons and instead fire up LOIC and nuke some easy target that was in some way slightly involved. They're good at that.
Motivation, OK, but somehow I don't think these people are the kind of hardened criminals who could manage to and/or get away with murder of their former buddy's entire family by means of meat grinder, or even just putting a horsehead in his bed. If he's smart, he'll just play along with the feds, serve a couple of years, and then get hired by one of the crappy security firms that used to be his target.
you're probably right. On the other hand, certain well known criminal organisations are well known to have invested heavily in online extortion and the like. As a blackhat it wouldn't be too surprising if he had some links with such groups, indirect or otherwise. If he's crossed them in some way he might be fucked.
10 years ago, the guy would have got a job at the AntiVirus firm. Nowadays, top hackers work either for criminal orgas or governments.
It's all about digital warfare. One should make a demo about it. Or it's been done already?
It's all about digital warfare. One should make a demo about it. Or it's been done already?
...someone said Chicago?
In the old days you would buy a judge with a bottle of 20 year old whisky. Perhaps sabu would be found on a ditch inside a rented car with a perfectly natural mechanical problem in his brakes.
In the old days you would buy a judge with a bottle of 20 year old whisky. Perhaps sabu would be found on a ditch inside a rented car with a perfectly natural mechanical problem in his brakes.
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They give great reason to increase the "security" of the internet.
Which, then, will kill the internet as we know it.
That is true, but lets not forget who is actually restricting net freedom: it is our governments, supposedly elected by and for the people. If they have the wrong security solutions, then we have a larger problem that just Lulzsec!
In a tangentially related news item: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/pwn2own-2012-google-chrome-browser-sandbox-first-to-fall/10588
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VUPEN will sell the rights to one of the zero-day vulnerabilities but the company says it won’t give up the sandbox escape. “We are keeping that private, keeping it for our customers.”
That probably happens about 10 times a day - most of these hacks are found outside of public competitions.
