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midi controller with lots of knobs and buttons

category: general [glöplog]
hey guys!
I recently started to use Traktor Dj Studio and so my Oxygen 8 midi keyboard is not suitable - I need more knobs, buttons and sliders and I don't need a musical keyboard. At the same time the controller has to be relatively small.
Can anyone suggest a midi controller like that?
Not cheap, and I've not used them, but they look great: http://www.jazzmutant.com/

Hey, wasn't this topic around some months back? I'm getting deja vu...
added on the 2009-01-13 16:21:06 by psonice psonice
the perfect controller of the future seems to be 'just' a touchscreen.
added on the 2009-01-13 16:25:29 by Zest Zest
This ought to do fine: http://www.zzounds.com/item--NOVREMOTE25SL

Zest: What rubbish. You need tactile feedback when working with high resolution/timing sensitive stuff like music.
added on the 2009-01-13 16:27:16 by gloom gloom
zest: i dunno, touchscreens dont feel as "tangible" as e.g. a fader, they dont feel usable for any analog rapid motion.
added on the 2009-01-13 16:27:36 by Gargaj Gargaj
heh i agree with you, i was just observing what manufacturers are selling now and designing for the future :p
added on the 2009-01-13 16:33:50 by Zest Zest
I disagree with what gloom and gargaj said, touchscreens can be good enough i think if the screen is big enough + responsive enough.

Having said that, they're not useable for any length of time, as you end up with sore or sticky fingertips from all the rubbing :)
added on the 2009-01-13 16:56:43 by psonice psonice
gloom: No, you need FORCE FEEDBACK! \:D/
added on the 2009-01-13 17:08:55 by kusma kusma
Gloom : you need a Keops Sensitive Console, that insults and bites the user whenever it doesn't like what's going on ;)
added on the 2009-01-13 17:10:35 by keops keops
I'm sure Hyde would like such a plugin for Visual Studio :D
added on the 2009-01-13 17:15:26 by keops keops
psonice: That's it, yeah, the ergonomics of using your hands to touch a large screen for even short amounts of time is just downright bad.

Keops: Isn't that called "MSN"? ;)
added on the 2009-01-13 17:21:24 by gloom gloom
gloom: i reckon it'd rule though with an oiled screen.. just so long as it's still readable :) (and so long as you don't need to touch anything else for a while..)
added on the 2009-01-13 17:28:21 by psonice psonice
fun and cheapish : Behringer BCF2000

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new stanton's turntablism controllers are kinky.
also, what weyland yutani said+bcr+that behr's dj controller.

tho personallyi\m pretty happy with the only 1 assignable fader on my korg + wacom intuos with some input2midi softare. much more fun than you could have with knobs - unless there's no real vcas/vcfs under the panel. =)
added on the 2009-01-13 18:52:43 by ton ton
If money really really isn't a problem

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http://www.mackie.com/products/mcupro/index.html
added on the 2009-01-13 19:15:00 by sauli sauli
@sauli: I wouldn't use that for traktor, whats the use?
For renoise it would be great, but for dj'ing?

I agree with Gargaj about the tangibility of touchscreen. I want some faders, knobs and pushbuttons (for that bass eq kill). Touchscreens are the future? No way.
added on the 2009-01-13 19:36:24 by numtek numtek
heh, yeah. didn't notice he wanted it to be small for dj use :)
added on the 2009-01-13 19:55:47 by sauli sauli
on a touch screen you can at least replace the tactile feedback with with very obvious visual feedback, but i agree that faders (especially motorized ones) are still probably more usable in most applications where faders are actually used :). but some interfaces and tools benefit from a touch screen or pressure sensitive touch surface... look at kaoss pad for example.
added on the 2009-01-13 23:07:52 by linde linde
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on a touch screen you can at least replace the tactile feedback with with very obvious visual feedback

But you don't need visual feedback. When controlling music, you listen. A resolution of 12 indicator leds across a rotary controller or a VU-meter is more than enough, anything above that is wasted on eyecandy. Visual feedback isn't needed over a very rudimentary level when controlling or shaping sounds.

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but some interfaces and tools benefit from a touch screen or pressure sensitive touch surface... look at kaoss pad for example.

One controller, yes, but not an entire control-surface. How do you plan operating three or four controllers at the same time, without loosing control of the individual ones when you move your finger away from the pad? And; what happens when you move it back? Can you hit the exact same spot? :) The KAOSS-pad is a funny toy, but nothing more. They added video-mixing to it, ffs :)
added on the 2009-01-14 00:03:44 by gloom gloom
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NUMARK TOTAL CONTROL DJ MIDI-CONTROLLER
(works pretty well with traktor)

around 200euros.

But you could also get a alsa soundcard with two outputs and use a "normal" audio mixer :)
added on the 2009-01-14 00:15:27 by psykon psykon
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Would THAT be any good?
Or if you prefer to have some more Knobs:

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added on the 2009-01-15 01:07:58 by bdk bdk
not exactly what id call a midi controller..
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if ya wanna get some more registers..
build that up in a natural cave and you are the king!
some nuclear rockets might help completing the atmosphere! (..)
;D
added on the 2009-01-15 01:15:30 by gentleman gentleman
this thing (korg nano control)

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I do find interesting since it's quite affordable and reasonably functional (~50-60 euros)
added on the 2009-01-15 03:43:59 by xyz xyz

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