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i used to be fond of the Daft Punk and i kinda still am, but i've read a special summer issue of the french mag 'les inrocks' about them, like a business panegyric, and they didn't really mention that they were masters of digging and using LARGE old samples...

read this article and check all the tracks : they sound so familiar... :/

i am still amazed by how the electro disco of the Daft Punk can electrify a dancefloor, but this whole rip case is a bit disappointing :(

thats so fucking old news

There's a difference you know - Daft Punk ALWAYS credited all the work they've sampled and payed licences where needed. This makes them clean and good in my book.

I dislike daft punk. Sounds like shit if you ask me.

Wow, you just discovered that House/Electro/Hiphop made heavy use of old disco/funk samples ? :)

heh i'm not that candid but it still hurts when you discover that the essential riffs of Robot Rock, Harder Better Faster Stronger and Crescendolls are not from the Daft Punk themselves...

i think i kinda erroneously considered them as gods of synths and other electro instruments, in fact they are 'just' sampling gods :]

besides idols are to be burnt sooner or later ;)

Stop saying "the" Daft Punk, please.

daft punk ... they dig what is cool in 70's and 80's. don't call them "electro" coz they are "french house" or "filter house". that's what is accurate description of their music...

"Boring" is another description that fits Daft Punk quite well....

yeah that's what i harshly realized :/

Nutman: sorry, french deformation (and they are often associated with their robot characters)

Daft Punk is awesome and everyone who disagrees is a whiney faggot. Same for these people that all of a sudden discard any sampling as wrong, even when credit is given.

discard = regard and also seconding that this is really old news.

For people that want to be even more 'amazed' about the brand new art of sampling that hasn't been going on since the 80s at all, check the cd series 'Sampled' which features original tracks sampled by many.

okkie: personally i haven't said sampling is wrong, it's of course a natural and technical part of electronic musicmaking, and it can be considered ethical if credits are given (and license rights given when it deals with chart hits) and even good when it resuscitates 'forgotten' cool old tunes, but there is a fundamental problem within sampling : the producers can't notify the listeners of the borrowing unless they put some wink-wink reference in the lyrics, and they hardly brag of the very tunes they have sampled, so when you finally happen to know their internal cooking and which samples they have exactly used, then the disappointment is quite guaranteed :/

g0d bless the intarweb to teach people and do justice ;D

okkie if it doesn't contain The Winstons' "amen brother" it's bound to be crap.

i hope you "wah sampling sucks wah" guys never discover hip hop

If I were you, I'd be far more upset about Nickelback constantly stealing their own song over and over again.

Zest - but they do! They do put all the reference needed in every booklet of the CDs! They don't go into low tactics just to make some beats, they licence and pay every bit of sampled stuff they get, AND they add credits in the booklet. If this isn't a-ok behaviour in today's sample-manic music, I don't know what is. So ok, Daft Punk isn't as original as you'd like, but c'mon, it's still great party-stuff :) .

Xtense: ok. then i guess i've never really taken any time to 'study' Daft Punk, i was just banging to their tunes :)

and uh uh i may now understand the usefulness of buying the CD & booklet :>

Do you know 'Glorybox' by Portishead? That whole song is a complete lift from Isaac Hayes' "Ike's Rap III". There I ruined another song for you!!

Uncle X has leading!

Rumor has it that a few famous demoscene people used SAMPLES in their mods !!!