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Die In Vain by Cocoon [web]
screenshot added by mayday on 2023-04-10 11:04:42
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release date : april 2023
release party : Revision 2023
compo : pc demo
ranked : 6th
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popularity : 54%
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alltime top: #8960
added on the 2023-04-10 11:04:42 by mayday mayday

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Great visuals in the Cocoon tradition. I really liked the scene with the guy walking and becoming lines etc.
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 11:31:08 by Navis Navis
We can't get enough of cocoon demos
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 13:47:53 by 0b5vr 0b5vr
I forgive the missing skull :D Great demo!
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 15:53:35 by mayday mayday
That was beautiful!
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 16:04:30 by guille^cocoon guille^cocoon
Ntsc : this one ruled hard … should have ranked higher.
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 16:15:11 by nytrik nytrik
one of the most uninspired and conceptually hollow PC demos in recent years. same brand as "Bring It On" from three years earlier, but this time it doesn't even look good or maintain same kind of a menacing aura. in particular that man walking mocap is such a tired cliché at this point that it actively annoying me. not to mention all of the general visual artifacts and shortcomings (low res moon texture, lack of almost any and all shadows, etc.).

it's the music in large part that dictates how a demo ultimately turns out though. granted i haven't yet really liked any of Tineidae's soundtracks all that much (although "Shunting Yard" is quite fine for the first half or so), but this one felt particularly grating and monotonous in a severely unpleasant way. even just from visceral enjoyment viewpoint the mixing and sound design are way too "nasal" and congested for their own good.

there were several wonderful demos both before and after this in the compo, yet i feel this is the one that will be forgotten by far the quickest.
sucks added on the 2023-04-10 17:09:47 by noby noby
...but boy does it run like a pig for what it shows...

Now somebody will say "yeah right this is full raytracing with 100 times bouncing etc etc, this is as fast as it can get"!. Maybe, but the problem is that it doesnt LOOK like something that cant be done otherwise. It looks like something from 4-5 years ago (technology wise, see Flt demos), but at a quarter of the speed it should be getting to.
Besides that, very beautiful if not slightly disconnected.
added on the 2023-04-10 19:01:53 by Navis Navis
somebody call this hollow? I wish I was that hollow!
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 20:07:49 by hollowone hollowone
This was great! The logo sequence had the perfect mood (as in most cocoon demos) and I quite liked the humanoid walk cycle before all the blobs appeared. The boolean effect with those platonics was my favourite though.

@noby - grumpy. watch it again!
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 20:28:03 by Hyde Hyde
great prod!
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 21:45:25 by siko siko
I thought this was pretty good, and let's face it most of us would love to reach this standard - even if it felt kinda unpolished this time.
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 21:59:33 by Gargaj Gargaj
Hyde: i did watch it several times today while thinking how to put my feelings exactly, and my opinion just started to turn more and more negative… sorry, grumpy as i might be (although i try not to be) this just really rubbed me the wrong way :)
added on the 2023-04-10 22:09:15 by noby noby
Different look, same content. Still good, still love it. The compo had so many excellent entries, so placing 6th matches with my brain.
rulez added on the 2023-04-10 23:52:37 by Bobic Bobic
feels kind of a fastmade compofiller, does it's job in that regard with a few good looking scenes, missing a lot of the expected polish though.
added on the 2023-04-11 09:57:15 by psenough psenough
Consistent visuals, a pretty distinctive style, capable soundtrack, but missing that "something" to make it really pop out and be memorable. Worth a thumb but didn't exactly blow me away.
rulez added on the 2023-04-11 10:06:09 by break break
Nice one guys! I liked it more compared to some others :-)
rulez added on the 2023-04-11 13:17:54 by spiked-maniac spiked-maniac
It's very Cocoon, for better and for worse.
added on the 2023-04-11 13:25:12 by Preacher Preacher
i quite liked the colours and the curves
rulez added on the 2023-04-11 13:28:44 by wrighter wrighter
Doesn't get me. Wasn't bad. Looked good. Just didn't get me.
added on the 2023-04-11 15:58:45 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
I liked it. Not a lot, but enough for a thumb.
rulez added on the 2023-04-11 16:40:57 by uncle-x uncle-x
solid, I miss a better connection between the visual & the music
rulez added on the 2023-04-13 00:34:13 by wullon wullon
I wasn't quite convinced about the slightly cartoony purplish overflow/segmentation bits in the first part, but it worked better when matched with the walking wireframe man. I'm going to substr quote gargaj

"let's face it most of us would love to reach this standard" :)
rulez added on the 2023-04-14 13:38:18 by rloaderro rloaderro
it's unpolished of course ^^ I started the demo on the Thursday before the party. I used old stuff I had in stock and never used, and chose the music on Friday night :) I still wanted to make a demo for the Revision..so ..it's really "raw" ..perhaps I'll do a "final" version. But I don't spend much time with the "old notch" anymore :-)
added on the 2023-04-14 14:38:09 by ntsc_ ntsc_
The usual Cocoon quality.
rulez added on the 2023-04-14 14:46:31 by gaspode gaspode
rulez added on the 2023-04-15 02:52:17 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
repeat: Preacher
added on the 2023-04-15 23:01:51 by Trilkk Trilkk
Enjoyed the boolean shapes and the walking with squiggly lines scene.
rulez added on the 2023-04-16 12:17:16 by Nezbie Nezbie
rulez added on the 2023-04-16 16:13:13 by Frequent Frequent
Nice demo!
rulez added on the 2023-04-16 20:22:58 by TMA TMA
this might be one of those instances where a group name influences the expectations, at least for me. yeah kinda unfair. but those colors ... and it feels bland (even after reading the comment that it is unpolished). i'll pigg it and watch a better cocoon demo instead :)

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