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Skid Row by The Alliance
screenshot added by keops on 2005-01-17 00:22:36
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release date : january 1991
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popularity : 49%
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alltime top: #25746
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Main menu was a kind of dungeon master. Not very easy to get to a given screen/demo.
Screens from german crews BMT, ACF, etc...
added on the 2005-01-17 00:27:58 by keops keops
logo ripped from fairlight: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=9057
sucks added on the 2005-04-21 15:16:44 by EviL EviL
Rip #1 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16525
RULEZ / THUMB UP added on the 2005-04-10 by `eviL`

Rip #2 this one
logo ripped from fairlight: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=9057
SUCKS / THUMB DOWN added on the 2005-04-21 by `eviL`

Evil: What's the difference? Please make sense.
added on the 2005-04-21 15:31:33 by keops keops
I see no logo on the 2nd screenshot (?)
added on the 2005-04-21 15:37:59 by EviL EviL
I see a whole old intro ripped, effect and & fonts and yet you find that marvellous.
added on the 2005-04-21 15:42:11 by keops keops
if you have the ST Magazine nº47 Dec/Jan 1990/1991 you can read:
"...le logo Alliance est en fait basé sur un logo Fairlight sur Amiga (The "Orange Hole" Demo). Ils n'ont eu qu'à modifier les lettres..."
"...vous avez reconnu l'ecran de fin de la "Metal Hangover" de Scoopex"

"the Alliance logo is based on Fairlight's Orange Hole demo. They just had to change the letters."
"you can recognize Mental Hangover from Scoopex at the end screen"
added on the 2005-04-21 15:42:38 by EviL EviL
I don't care what ST mag reads.
All I see is that when Hoodlum rips an old Skidrow/Anarchy intro, it's "wonderful", but when the Alliance rips (even if redrawn) an old Failight logo, it suddenly sucks.

What different does it make?
added on the 2005-04-21 15:50:38 by keops keops
you want to compare a 1 color font used 1000 times on cracktros to a logo ?
for the rest: a sinus is a sinus, there are no stars and the 8x8 font is not the same
we are talking demo here
added on the 2005-04-21 16:00:46 by EviL EviL
Ok, I won't try to argue with yet another amiga zealot who keeps arguing with patent insincerity and recognizes rip only when he wants to (and certainly not when his friends are involved).
And yes, even if it's the 3rd time in a row that a hoodlum cracktro uses ripped material:

But you are totally right. To rip ONE bitplane at a time (with layout and effects) is ok but THREE bitplanes is not ok anymore.

Yes, it all makes sense to me now, I'll go and visit Okkie's shop to get more clues. Thanks for enlightening me.
added on the 2005-04-21 16:11:07 by keops keops
friends involved ?
I never met the FLT guys who made the demo.
As I told you I've just read the magazine and compared the 2 prods they told here on pouet (and btw they expose lots more stuff taken from amiga on atari demos).
Now for the other hoodlum prods (you still mixing up things, you dont like him it is your problem I've nothing to deal with so please stop) are cracktros (from 2004/2005 go figure) not demos and if we start comparing cracktros now there will be dozens with: same tunes and same fonts.
added on the 2005-04-21 16:32:33 by EviL EviL
I was talking about hoodlum redundant rips, not flt, that you qualify as "marvellous". Anyway I won't argue any further, you recognize rip only when you want to.
Ripped material in demos is *bad* BUT it's totally *ok* ("wonderful" even) in cracktros
To rip *1* bitplane + effects is ok BUT *3* bitplanes is not ok anymore.
You're right and I'm wrong. I'll go and fish some clues. Period.
added on the 2005-04-21 16:41:43 by keops keops
I found it hard to get all screens. There was an Anti Amiga screen though, good for a laugh. Btw: Ripping itself is not that bad, if the rest is ok. I do not think e.g. Mad Max had allowed all people to use his music. Anyway everybody did. The Alliance even had the work to change some parts...:-)
added on the 2005-04-21 16:59:04 by Zweckform Zweckform
Zweckform: I'm not sure I managed to get all screens, the main menu was a real pain to use :)
added on the 2005-04-21 17:02:37 by keops keops
Great demo with a terrible main menu ;p
rulez added on the 2005-04-22 22:03:38 by Buckethead Buckethead
One of my favorite ATARI ST demos. Think about the relase date.
rulez added on the 2006-03-27 13:46:30 by seppjo seppjo
Nice effort!
rulez added on the 2006-06-13 22:13:55 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
a few nice screens, but a lot of just ok ones

anyone know how to get the menu running in saint - a couple of screens (both the "extras" on the bmt2 option) don't wanna work on steem
The demon that put too much feature-bloat into the walk-around main menu concept.
added on the 2009-12-05 13:31:59 by CiH CiH
A nice demo with some cool screens !
rulez added on the 2009-12-05 19:10:59 by lsl lsl

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