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i'm considering adding NUP access

category: general [glöplog]
im thinking doing a table with some 7398264392 NUPs and keeping a counter on the new one, ++ when new account is created. you would have to go ask a gloperator on #pouet.net irc whats the current NUP to register new account on pouet. would be accessible through small .php only to glop/mod/admin.

would increase dificulty to register new accounts, cutting the spam down significantly and relegate users to have atleast 1 gloperator who minimally tolerates them.

still wondering if the NUP access should be for bbs only or also prod comments + oneliner.

added on the 2005-02-02 05:11:03 by psenough psenough
personally i think NUP for bbs only would suffice (would help newbies/strangers to be more participative since they would have free access to oneliner and prod comments)
but im already forseeing retarded abuse on those areas from ppl who cant get the NUP for the bbs, so i might aswell implement it everywhere since im at it... -_-

i know some people would perhaps feel uncomfortable having to go to irc and bother other ppl to get access. the question is, does it go against freedom of speech and scene spirit? i think it doesnt.
added on the 2005-02-02 05:14:18 by psenough psenough
I'm not afraid it would harm free speech but that it could keep people who are new to the scene away from pouet.
while the worst bbs spammers we all know already own an account.
ok, might help against fake account, but only as long as the glöpperators can never get fooled on irc.
added on the 2005-02-02 05:35:57 by mizc mizc
it would be easy to change normal user accounts back to user without nop verification status.
added on the 2005-02-02 05:50:34 by psenough psenough
So what would this mean? Would we need to get a NUP in order to post on the boards?
Or just to register, as a one-time deal?
added on the 2005-02-02 06:24:43 by crusader crusader
ps: i like the idea, in fact it sounds very "scene spirit" to me :)
added on the 2005-02-02 06:55:30 by stil stil
crusader: one time deal. obviously all active users right now would get instant access.. its more to prevent new multiple accounts abuse by someone who would get muzzled for beeing annoying kinda thing..
added on the 2005-02-02 07:46:37 by psenough psenough

I cant believe it - next thing you introduce is biometric identification for BBS posting. What is the point? Currently all these discussions about censorship and restricting access do rather have an adverse effect than helping to solve the "situation". They pollute the BBS and are an incentive to post even more crap as long as it is possible.

Most problems would resolve by doing nothing - after a while every troll gets fed up without response. This has been said many times, but somehow this concept is not that easy to grasp for some people.

To get rid of the spam: I would suggest to add an option so the admins can bump individual threads from the frontpage into the archive. That way almost nobody would look at these postings and nobody would have to complain about censorship.
added on the 2005-02-02 07:52:35 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
I don't like the idea. I am quite a rare poster on pouet, but if I had to go find someone who registers me, I'd most probably stop posting at all. I don't know how many people are like me, but it would be quite sad if prods get less coments...
added on the 2005-02-02 07:54:25 by chock chock

Oh yes, continueing the idea of the topic: Just make pouet a pay site! You will be suprised how quickly all spamming and trolling ceases.
added on the 2005-02-02 07:55:03 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
My English is the worst I know, so I post only comments to prods that really impress me. I'm sure, if I'm forced to register myself this way, I would not continue visiting the site.

First the censorship, now this - pouet goes down and down
added on the 2005-02-02 08:05:04 by Kauto Kauto
the problem is not the trolls, but those who are unable to ignore them.
added on the 2005-02-02 08:38:22 by ryg ryg
maybe the (currently quite flaky) SceneID registration validation system should be fixed - guess that would help easier..
added on the 2005-02-02 08:53:05 by Gargaj Gargaj
ryg: you're right, i have hard time ignoring forced idiocy. it upsets me.
added on the 2005-02-02 08:55:36 by psenough psenough
i dont want to augment dificulty to use the site.
i just want the trolls to get a conscience of their actions.

one just seems way too entwined on the other.. :/
added on the 2005-02-02 08:57:29 by psenough psenough
close the bbs-forum, restrict prod-comments posting to one per user (except if an admin allows a second -> providing a good reason). <kidding>or make bbs-posts cost 5 cents/post, billed by credit card. hehe</kidding> but then again.. all that would be too harsh, i know.
added on the 2005-02-02 09:09:36 by unlock unlock
Maybe also deny pr0nstars the ability to create new threads?
added on the 2005-02-02 09:17:24 by sprocket sprocket
sprocket: they'll just create new account
added on the 2005-02-02 09:20:14 by psenough psenough
...which they shouldnt be able to do without a valid, yet unused email address, which should be reviewed by someone behind SceneID, eventually excluding hotmail/yahoo/...
added on the 2005-02-02 09:23:42 by Gargaj Gargaj
erm, email verification for sceneID is working and mandatory
unfortunatly anyone can create a temp email account somewhere...
added on the 2005-02-02 09:43:16 by psenough psenough
i didn't add loads of prods to the database just for people who know how to use irc and suck up with gloperators. however "much" trolling there may be, the day it gets more complicated to sign up for a newbie, i'm gone from this site. pouet's openness is it's power imho!
added on the 2005-02-02 09:56:55 by havoc havoc
agree with havoc!
added on the 2005-02-02 09:58:36 by okkie okkie
although i understand where ps stands, with ep being the ultimate attentionwhore and optimus being back at full strength with his retardedness, as soon as you make it too hard to sign up, the whole idea of pouet is gone. part of the fun is flaming clueless newbies on the bbs (cause fucking bastards is what we are). let it be, ignore threads opened by certain people, etc. etc.

*starts singing 'give peace a chance'*
added on the 2005-02-02 10:03:31 by okkie okkie
NUP + SPW + group-acronym test door please! =)
added on the 2005-02-02 10:36:22 by dipswitch dipswitch
I'm pretty neutral since there are enough people who use pouet only as database and (nearly) never post a comment or leave some bbs message. And well, I remember how pouet was about two years ago, I used it a bit but it was slow, buggy, trollinfected,... For me it changed to the better and therefore I'm open for trollblockers. And for norwegische superknullers of course. ;)


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