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Re: Which was the first demoscene demo?

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Otherwise, we'd need to find the first cracktro that's not a cracktro but exists for its own sake. I don't think this can possibly be nailed down to one specific prod. It's likely that this trend emerged at multiple places at the same time.
added on the 2018-10-22 14:45:01 by jco jco
But seriously.
added on the 2018-10-22 15:30:37 by Sir Sir
but SIRiously
added on the 2018-10-22 15:32:46 by jco jco
According to Grendel/Byterapers the first party with a proper democompo with known and downloadable results was the Byterapers-party in august 1988. (Skrolli Magazine, 2018.3)
that establishes a baseline. anything earlier?
added on the 2018-10-22 17:26:12 by jco jco
@jco The Spectrum demo I mentioned earlier beats that by a year. :-)

Looking from the other direction, I don't think anything pre-1985 on CSDb fits the criteria. Colorgirls looked promising for a while, being a non-game release from multiple people with handles ("Clever & Smart"), who resurfaced later in the 80s with at least one demo that actually called itself a demo and can be linked by group affiliations to the current demoscene. But, on closer inspection, Clever & Smart were only the crackers, so that still doesn't establish a demoscene link to the person or people who actually created it. It does vaguely back up 4mat's hunch that the earliest demos are probably graphic/music rips, though.
added on the 2018-10-22 19:44:15 by gasman gasman
The Jezebels is quite an interesting multiparter by The Jezebel's Union from 1987. The union practically consisted of all the finnish groups and sceners of its time. Here's a fact sheet. It mentions "cracker/swapper-union", but some of the members were already more into demomaking.
There were older stuff already in first thread, like The Judges (no cracks at all) 1001 Crew, FCG (with 1985 intro/demo) etc. Mostly being also cracking groups, yes, but otherwise meeting criterias.

Demos were sometimes called demos already in 1986:

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added on the 2018-10-23 13:09:30 by Serpent Serpent
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There were older stuff already in first thread, like The Judges (no cracks at all) 1001 Crew, FCG (with 1985 intro/demo) etc. Mostly being also cracking groups, yes, but otherwise meeting criterias.

Demos were sometimes called demos already in 1986

Good contribution, and yes there's nothing wrong with the helpful contributions in the old thread I linked either, it just got closed as reaction to a spammer.

If I were not platform agnostic but an Amiga fanboi, I'd jump on the (IMO) incorrect release date of Boing, and Amiga would be leading. But the criteria are there for a reason, and I think it rightfully disqualifies it as the First Demoscene Demo.

So. I think we have established that we can go as far back as 85/86 on C64, and we now need an earlier demo on C64 or another platform like the BBC to beat it.

For me, it was when I realized that other teenagers were playing with the hardware and building reputation from standalone demos with effects that I even knew there was such a thing as the Demoscene.

So if I were egocentric I would dismiss the static screens on previous platforms and shout Bamiga Sector One!! Or Defjam or Thorax or ... but that kind of attitude doesn't meet the criteria, so instead it's the attitude that must be dismissed.
added on the 2018-11-02 21:12:32 by Photon Photon
So, Ratt with his C64 Beverly Hills Cop release from 1985 is a candidate, then?
added on the 2018-11-02 22:38:51 by wertstahl wertstahl

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