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I'm pretty sure this would fly as fair use though.
added on the 2016-06-08 13:19:48 by Gargaj Gargaj
Well it's kinda creative to use it like that :D
added on the 2016-06-08 13:42:58 by zoom zoom
Haha I never noticed the source of those things in Frank's videos...

And yeah it probably would qualify as fair use since it's transformative, only utilized a brief segment and it certainly doesn't affect the market or status of the original work. There also are certainly be better cases to be made for copyright infringement in his videos than this.
added on the 2016-06-08 13:46:14 by noby noby
I really don't see the problem. One thread down from here, demosceners are spreading DJ Mixes full of other people's work. How can that be OK and a video from some minor youtube celebrity not?

I propose the following ruleset:
- If Timbaland steals your work, it's bad
- If some guy produces entire records and liveshows full of Atari chiptune musicians and calls it his own, it's also bad
- If Deadmau5 steals 5 seconds of your work, transposed and rearranged, we discuss
- Else it's OK.

Should cover most cases, no?
added on the 2016-06-08 15:31:44 by skrebbel skrebbel
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demosceners are spreading DJ Mixes full of other people's work

Which is why Mixcloud is responsible for providing the royalties to the correct agencies.
added on the 2016-06-08 15:47:17 by Gargaj Gargaj
I've studied this problem a bit more and I've come to the conclusion that pouet outrage over stolen demoscene material is a direct function of the perceived popularity of the person who uses the content.

This makes perfect ethical sense, in fact, was it not Immanuel Kant who said

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Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law, unless you have less than 10000 Twitter followers


If you dig deeper, you'll see that crediting factors in as a mitigating factor. If Filthy Frank would've credited Conspiracy it would've probably been ok, since he's just a minor youtube celebrity. However, if Tempest and GRG had been listed inside the little album booklet of that Nelly Furtado album, it wouldn't have mattered much right, unless they'd been sent some fat checks too.

So then the function becomes something like:

Code:outrage = log((thief's Youtube subscribers) / (didCreditAppropriately ? 1000 : 1))


I'm open to improvements here, but to me this makes perfect sense! Screw the whole Kopimi movement, this should be new copyright law! Someone call the Pirate Party.
added on the 2016-06-08 15:48:34 by skrebbel skrebbel
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I've studied this problem a bit more and I've come to the conclusion that pouet outrage over stolen demoscene material is a direct function of the perceived popularity of the person who uses the content.


what matters is awareness, not outrage or vengeance. As long as people publish stuff, that stuff is at risk of being appropriated.
added on the 2016-06-08 19:37:42 by Czery Czery
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what matters is awareness


at best you will get money. awareness never.
added on the 2016-06-08 19:50:00 by 1in10 1in10
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(Banksy is a wanker)
added on the 2016-06-08 20:41:45 by okkie okkie
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(Banksy is a wanker)


that tells more about you than banksy
added on the 2016-06-08 20:46:23 by 1in10 1in10
Ok
added on the 2016-06-08 21:11:11 by okkie okkie
Banksy is 2D streetart commercial TOY... >>> Loomit, Daim, Toast, Neck^CNS, Efas, Totem 2, SeakOne, Peeta, Bosh3 are my 3D masters... No more

Just compare:
PEETA
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added on the 2016-07-01 19:57:13 by elan elan
This is the thread for this right?

(starts at 0:27)
added on the 2016-07-06 15:53:04 by okkie okkie
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This is the thread for this right?

(starts at 0:27)


hmmm...not really, but since we don't have a scene visuals stolen thread I guess this is the closest ;)
added on the 2016-07-06 16:00:31 by tFt tFt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKwesB8O7U
holy shit obsoleet and candystall alert!!!!11
added on the 2016-08-03 08:57:06 by Flashira Flashira
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This is the thread for this right?

(starts at 0:27)

Hahaha, is there any part they didn't use? :D

I'm assuming it's legit though, since Zoom has a brief cameo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKsd8k6-9Q&feature=youtu.be&t=245

They also borrowed some footage from TRSAC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKsd8k6-9Q&feature=youtu.be&t=261
added on the 2016-08-03 11:11:20 by lug00ber lug00ber
I think that would be something that Gargaj would be into :)
added on the 2016-08-03 11:12:53 by Preacher Preacher
I recognized the track, does that count?
added on the 2016-08-03 14:19:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
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I'm assuming it's legit though, since Zoom has a brief cameo:

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added on the 2016-08-03 16:30:37 by zoom zoom
zoom: i think you got appeared in that vid or something?
added on the 2016-08-05 12:38:11 by Flashira Flashira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSiuFFHDQTk
oh shit, aixelent ripped fr-019: poemtoahorse.
added on the 2016-08-10 01:59:20 by Flashira Flashira
If you're going to link to a 40 minute long video of short VJ-style clips, a timecode is prudent.
added on the 2016-08-10 11:09:31 by gloom gloom
That dude will never stop ripping off demoscene content, might as well stop posting him in this thread tbh.
added on the 2016-08-10 11:14:31 by okkie okkie

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