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tube passed the product on top10

category: general [glöplog]
okay, what's that all about? it's a friggin' 256b intro. how about letting only demos and intros fight for the top10 places? this just doesn't seem right to me..
added on the 2002-06-13 13:30:17 by gloom gloom
What are you crazy... This is what its all about... but.. haveing pokemon avatars in pouet.net souldnt be allowed!! I vote against Pokemon avatars!!
added on the 2002-06-13 13:35:56 by higen higen
maybe it's just time to remove the rankings completely. when stupid people start thumbing down great prods, only because they think that another production deserves the first production's place in the ranking lists more, it's just plain stupid :/
added on the 2002-06-13 13:41:01 by lug00ber lug00ber
The rankings should be cleared out every six month, or something... ;-)
added on the 2002-06-13 13:44:46 by raiden raiden
rankings just reflects ppl's opinions..
it's not pouet's fault it's yours
added on the 2002-06-13 13:53:04 by florent florent
sure, but you'd be mad not to say "wow! this rocks!" to the excellent tube-intro. however; i don't think it belongs in the top10. anyways; a new (and more diverse) ranking-system has been overdue for quite some time now anyways..
added on the 2002-06-13 13:56:56 by gloom gloom
i think statistic is fun :-)

Everyone who has read Basic math lession or society class shit in sweden knows statistic aint to trust and i think they teach this all around the world exept for perhaps in usa since morons like bush wouldnt as easily manipulate his people then
added on the 2002-06-13 13:58:15 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
I think the pacman avatar sould be copyrighted!!! Yes raiden.. I am talking about your icon!! :-P Long live rankings list!
added on the 2002-06-13 14:02:48 by higen higen
well, tube is better than the produkt.
What is your argument, Gloom?

Why should Tube not be allowed to be in the charts?
I think it's a wonderful intro
Gloom: I don't see a reason for (suddenly!) blaming Tube just because people like it. Of course, #1 spot is not "fair" in a way. But only as long as you care about charts too much. Ask top 10 authors if they are _really_ worried :) I doubt they need to build their egos around position in chart ;) Just take it easy...
added on the 2002-06-13 14:53:27 by bush-o bush-o
Remeber that it's not "scene top10", but "pouët top10". If you want real rankings on every category, go and watch them separately. Gloom, you may not like seeing 256b prods at top10, and others may not like to see windows intros and dos intros together. So, things are still "right" at every ranking. Check those out.
added on the 2002-06-13 15:29:31 by spite spite
How about a new ranking system? Something like

thumbs up - thumbs down
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downloads x bytes

;)
added on the 2002-06-13 15:43:38 by MrMessiah MrMessiah
Gosh...

The top 10 is open for every scene production and I think it should stay that way. But we REALLY need a monthly charts aswell, not only a all-time ranking.

But as with all pouet suggestions, they won't come, because analouge has no time to code/fix anything... What a pitty :/

Why not make this open source or at least allow trusted sceners to help with new feature/bugfix implementation?
added on the 2002-06-13 15:52:07 by tomaes tomaes
the top10 is not the best you can have but it's fair.

people like tube. accept it.
added on the 2002-06-13 16:09:09 by moT moT
ile: oh yes, i am *really* worried... but i still like the pouet voting system.
added on the 2002-06-13 16:58:58 by chaos chaos
i think you mean bush-o, chaos ;)
oh, yes, ofcourse... the old problem...
added on the 2002-06-13 17:33:22 by chaos chaos
oh PLEASE... all this "this production doesn't belong at its place in the top10" is pure bullshit, and downvoting stuff because you think it doesn't belong at that place in the top10 is manipulation, nothing else.

people: if you can't accept that there are other people with opinions aswell and that you should still vote what you think no matter if it influcences a production's rating in a way you don't like, then please, quit polluting pouet with your idiot statements NOW.

the whole point of the top10 is being a representation of what people in general think about the given productions - and when people start voting just because they think something is rated too low/too high, well, they haven't understood the first thing about public voting and should probably go back to elementary school for a few more years.

end of transmission.
added on the 2002-06-13 17:38:52 by ryg ryg
chaos: Erm... I'm not sure if we understand each other. Are you really saying that it matters to you if Das Produkt is #1, #2 or... whatever?
added on the 2002-06-13 17:39:36 by bush-o bush-o
hurray - people totally misunderstood me. :)

it's not that i don't like tube, i think it's a really good show of force regarding filesize and what you can do, but i still think that the top10 should be reserved for "larger/longer" prods.. why? well, my argumentation is this: i tell people about pouet.net all the time, people who are not sceners. "go to pouet.net and check out some of the stuff there" i say. since pouet.net has screenshots it's easier to catch the interrest from people who do not know what to look for. now; the top10 is one of the first things people notice and if they download the first place production and see that it's "just" (don't misunderstand :) "some tunnel-thing" they get disapointed, i would recon. everyone who i've "passed on" to pouet have downloaded the product and have come back to me and said something like "wow! how is this POSSIBLE?! give me MORE!" (yes fr-posse, you can take a bow now :) which is what i like to hear.

i like to recruit people to the demoscene and pouet.net is an excellent way of raising awareness of the demoscene (god, it sounds like a disease or a telethon or something :), which is why i'd rather have some "bigger" prod higher up in the placings.

well, that's just my two cents with nobs on.
added on the 2002-06-13 18:37:29 by gloom gloom
the pouet top10 is nowhere near what I would call the top10 productions in the scene. It basicly sucks. If I sould choose the prods, only three of the current top10 prods would remain.

h7
vip2(dunno why, i just like it)
and moralharcandy

this is ofcourse my opinion.
added on the 2002-06-13 18:39:29 by kusma kusma
How does one go about thumbing down this thread?? It doesn't deserve to be in the top 5.
How about a user-programmable ratings system? The database exposes a number of variables, such as the platform, prod size, positive votes etc, and you can combine them to build your own personalised top 10?
So if you want to see the most popular demos for Windows in bang-per-byte order you can input a little string and away you go ;)
added on the 2002-06-13 18:47:15 by MrMessiah MrMessiah
bush-o: oh yes, i check every day! having two productions in top ten is so great that it almost compensates for loosing #1. charts are fun. pouet is fun. the scene is fun. it better should be why else should i spend so much time in it?
added on the 2002-06-13 18:49:12 by chaos chaos

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