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A TMDC wouldn't be complete without the dedicated pouet thread, so here it is!

<4noobs>
What is TMDC?
Online competition about making Text mode demos.
</4noobs>

Entries can be submitted up to the 12th of december.
Full rules on the site: tmdc.scene.org

Invite available soon!

We're also still looking for prize sponsors!

Have fun doing your demos! I can't wait to see your entries!
added on the 2012-11-09 23:48:29 by BarZoule BarZoule
Quote:
Maximum file size is 7654321 bytes in a ZIP file (approx 7.3 megs), and 10 (TEN) megs uncompressed (10485760 bytes).


Any possibility of bumping this up, considering that it's 2012 and it would be infinitely preferable to use music that doesn't sound like an .xm file?
added on the 2012-11-09 23:57:16 by Preacher Preacher
On one side, it's true there isn't much reason for the demos to be so small. On the other hand, how big is your MP3/OGG ? I mean, 5mb is plenty no? ..unless you want to make 15 minutes textmode epic?
On the third hand (the foot?), how big do you need and what's the closest cool number ?
added on the 2012-11-10 08:06:56 by BarZoule BarZoule
ogg vbr at around 128 kbps reproduces music at amazing quality and doesn't take much disk space
added on the 2012-11-10 09:48:21 by musk musk
The size limit was due to historical reasons, and even I don't see much point in it these days.. (hell temperature check, anyone?)
added on the 2012-11-10 11:26:32 by sol_hsa sol_hsa
OTOH it's not like you need insanely detailed assets for a text mode demo, so 10mb unpacked sounds plenty.
added on the 2012-11-10 12:30:54 by p01 p01
I actually was thinking along the lines of 15 minutes of ambient stuff. YMMV but I don't think that 128kbps VBR OGG is "amazing quality". I'd rate that as "acceptable in dire circumstances".
added on the 2012-11-10 16:03:09 by Preacher Preacher
(depending on the style of music of course)
added on the 2012-11-10 16:04:10 by Preacher Preacher
Is there a good reason to not change the limit? I've been happy with the current one but if bumping up the limit helps getting more good prods into the compo it should be done. TMDC isn't about size coding anyway.
added on the 2012-11-10 16:58:24 by fragment fragment
Like stated above, I don't really care about the limit. With the new age of the internetz, there's no real use for it. I do want to keep a limit however ― just to avoid funny people sending 1GB-big demos :)

Let's up it to 32MB, then :)
Gives you over 20 minutes of 192kbps MP3. If someone still needs more just say so :)
added on the 2012-11-11 21:54:52 by BarZoule BarZoule
you guys ever thought about letting other systems in? get some petscii demos going.
added on the 2012-11-11 22:56:52 by 4mat 4mat
yes we did.
there's two problems though:
1- judging together very different sets of limitations
2- getting each member of the jury to run the demo.

The last issue is the main one. Even with current limitations, sometimes a prod doesn't run on one's machine (some Dos[Box] prods, for example). I can't ask every member of the jury to have, say , one Mac, one Linux and one Pet :)
added on the 2012-11-12 04:55:44 by BarZoule BarZoule
4mat: would love to see some petscii demos!
Barzoule: Maybe to get the same limitation, would it be hard to have for a next TMDC, some predefined charset&palette like the PC/VGA and C64?
added on the 2012-11-12 17:57:39 by F-Cycles F-Cycles
Why limit the palette and 'resolution' but not the file size. It all seems very arbitrary to me.
added on the 2012-11-12 18:33:55 by trc_wm trc_wm
trc_wm: they do have some file size. Although this year is up to 32MB. Hum... sounds like someone will encode a movie in text mode.

It's a text-mode demo party.. without limit of the palette, resolution and charset... you will end up with no-text-mode demos!?

I am not a big fan of the EGA 16-colors and PC charset... I feel that the C64 BBS were having better gfx than the PC BBS... maybe because of the petscii which has many gfx chars.. or maybe because I could see colors which are closer to real-life object (not a pure rgb...).
added on the 2012-11-12 18:50:10 by F-Cycles F-Cycles
The file size limit was completely removed from the democompo at Revision and now all demos were just 2GB video players.. No wait, they weren't.
added on the 2012-11-13 12:05:35 by fragment fragment
How can you make videos of Win32 textmode demos?
added on the 2012-11-13 21:29:31 by tonic tonic
Tonic: there's a bunch of apps that can do a grab of the desktop, I suppose you could use that with a windowed demo. For fullscreen, however, you'd be better with a camera and your LCD.

Anni did a bunch of text mode captures, that's probably the best person to ask this to.
added on the 2012-11-14 04:01:56 by BarZoule BarZoule
BarZoule: well, win7 doesn't even have full screen text mode anymore.. :)
added on the 2012-11-14 07:47:15 by sol_hsa sol_hsa
Prize update!

Some awesome money has recently fallen from the sky. So what should we do with that? Give it away indeed! So this year we should have:
1st: 50 euros
2nd: 35 euros
3rd: 15 euros.

In addition to that we will have the famous diplomas, some ND stickers and maybe other random stuff.

Now be motivated and go back to your demos! :D
added on the 2012-11-21 06:58:29 by BarZoule BarZoule
One week to go!
I hope you all got at least a little something started :)
added on the 2012-12-06 05:06:27 by BarZoule BarZoule
sol_hsa: well. no actually. tweaking would let it be fullscreen. tmdc has restrictions on the consolebuffer dimensions anyway.
added on the 2012-12-06 12:30:52 by rudi rudi
rudi: tweaking would let you put enough chars to fill the screen, but it's still not the same as an actual fullscreen console, it's not "DOS-like" :)

and in other news:
-a potential fullscreen solution has been talked of here

And more importantly, we've got some 5 entries for TMDC! 1 more than last year :)

Judging will probably take a while, like every year, and results and all will be up at the beginning of next year, if we're still there =)
added on the 2012-12-13 05:01:44 by BarZoule BarZoule
Meh, I failed to make the deadline... :(
added on the 2012-12-13 14:54:16 by trc_wm trc_wm
I failed this time around :/ Just too much other stuff going on... but next year...
added on the 2012-12-13 14:56:37 by Preacher Preacher

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