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subverse zero by Headcrash [web]
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screenshot added by styx^hcr on 2002-11-08 23:58:09
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release date : november 2002
release party : Crau .02 Party 2002
compo : pc intro
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 5
  • is ok 21
  • sucks 16
popularity : 55%
 55%
  • sucks -0.26
alltime top: #46547
added on the 2002-11-08 23:58:09 by styx^hcr styx^hcr

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finally our first "real" intro. delayed a bit, it was planned for assembly :)) (however, a rule says that we never can finish our stuff for asm)
added on the 2002-11-09 00:05:24 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
Locks up my system just before it completes. But it's are gorgeous piece of work I'd say
rulez added on the 2002-11-09 00:08:07 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
lots and lots of undeniably tacky stuff here. Maybe Farb-rausch spoiled me with their 64k flybys
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 00:09:48 by cats cats
yuk.
The music is just.. scary. Not in a good way.
Too blocky, old effects and bad camera.
I'm spoiled.
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 00:19:50 by cole cole
boring, ugly, bad music.... even the code is not good
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 00:46:58 by spengler spengler
some rather nice graphics
(few) nice synchros
music is cheap...
just fading the scenes out is boring..
overall i liked it
rulez added on the 2002-11-09 00:56:14 by deemage deemage
can you spell häßlich?
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 00:58:06 by robotriot robotriot
I don't like textures like those very much... :/
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 01:10:09 by elend elend
OK, the one thing that kills this intro is the music. Really. It plainly sucks. If it was any better, you could easily oversee the rest of the problems:
- Slow code on a P4 2.4/TNT2 Ultra
- Long scenes
- Unimaginative Fade ins/outs
- Questionable texture quality
- Other minor design issues

After all that bashing though, I can say that it actually looks rather interesting. Especially the part with the water. I have a feeling this could become *very* good with some additional work.

bottomline: piggy.
added on the 2002-11-09 01:31:37 by moT moT
RULEZ! because headrash evolved rapidly. and that rocks :)
(bottom line piggy? eh? ;D )
rulez added on the 2002-11-09 02:10:56 by PigPen PigPen
nice synch.
2,3 scene was good.
however, the music sucks.
ugly texture.
ugly blur effect.
camera work was boring.
sorry...
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 03:22:30 by got got
It's always nicer if texture coordinates are proportional so all textures seams to be in the same resolution (the backgrounds sometimes looked like streched crap compared to the rest). The camera sometimes took the short-cut thru objects and that looked really cheap.
The thing I liked the most was the water in the container (not the water flowing down into the container which looked like crap).
With a little more math ,better textures and bearable music this would look great, as it is now it's a piggy :D
added on the 2002-11-09 03:46:45 by ekoli ekoli
yers yechy textures and the music is farked
ZZzzzzz..
added on the 2002-11-09 04:18:20 by verm verm
geez man, save me from those textures...
anyway a nice one. so i'll pig it.
added on the 2002-11-09 08:31:14 by FooLman FooLman
An attempt of doing a bypass/farbrausch like flyby intro without the needed experience. Codewise, it has quite enough stuff and run smoothly on my p3 450+gf2, ther music is a bit unimaginative, but at least some synchs have been set up. Pigface this time...
added on the 2002-11-09 10:05:03 by dixan dixan
actually this was planned to be less fly-bye than it finally is, but the badly compressable music kept us away from including all stuff we wanted to. due to the already big enough delay we finally decided to release it.
btw, there shoudn't be problems on weaker 3d cards, my pc is rather poor compared to what many people own nowadays. multitexturing has to be supported, that's all.
added on the 2002-11-09 10:33:08 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
Well, everything has already been said.
Weak tune, somewhat ugly textures, plus we are not greeted. Enough reasons to thumb this down. ;)

But anyway, there's enough substance to give it a piggy. :)
added on the 2002-11-09 10:34:24 by tomaes tomaes
Yeah for some odd reason, it doesn't feel right to thumb this one down, but I'm sure I will not watch it again.
added on the 2002-11-09 10:44:29 by Jare Jare
I think this is not a real intro... not many effects, only 3d rotating. Umm... could have faster temo... little bit boring.
added on the 2002-11-09 10:52:30 by shadez shadez
a few cool effects but overall too boring and ugly textures. i could have made you some better music in about 30 seconds
added on the 2002-11-09 13:31:32 by Duckers Duckers
crashes before the first frame
added on the 2002-11-09 15:33:00 by delta delta
i lke it.
added on the 2002-11-09 15:38:19 by rac rac
Sorry, I don't like it at all. Worst music I have ever heard in an intro and the rest isn't very entertaining even if I can't judge it codewise. You can do better guys, I am sure about that!
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 16:10:34 by ghandy ghandy
well, this is a demo, which really doens't make you stunning onto the screen. the music is very boring, and the textures too. all i can positively say, is that the 3d is coded nice. but if there is no design or style inside, it really seems to be boring.
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 16:11:32 by RaS RaS
Textures and music are really bad. Scenes are uninteresting and slow. There seems to be a diagonal line across the screen in cut scenes for some reason. Font is really dull.

There are signs that things can be done better. The water effect for example was interesting, but not quite enough to save it from the downthumb :/
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 16:36:05 by Mtl Mtl
a few okay scenes. the music sucks. textures sucks aswell. a bit boring at times too.
not my taste...
rulez added on the 2002-11-09 16:43:31 by starbuck starbuck
damn!!! thumb down and not up... argh!!! *spank myself*
added on the 2002-11-09 16:44:52 by starbuck starbuck
it's not THAT bad after all... just an average intro.
added on the 2002-11-09 17:11:45 by jazzman jazzman
Boring and uninteresting scenes (seen it 1000 times before).
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 17:19:09 by Wain Wain
pathetic
sucks added on the 2002-11-09 23:26:42 by superplek superplek
Crashed (on module unknown) on my computer (Athlon XP 1800+, WinXP, integrated graphics card).
added on the 2002-11-09 23:47:46 by DiamonDie DiamonDie
To long running time, partly ugly scenes and the sound fails to create a decent atmosphere.
But no one should slam the group after the first 'real' prod.
added on the 2002-11-10 00:26:19 by Crest Crest
Some nice scenes. Its main problem is the music. This would have impressed me some years ago, but I think Farb-rausch has spoiled us all.. :(
added on the 2002-11-10 00:28:02 by sprocket sprocket
crest: 3:15 running time too long ? now that's funny :)
mtl: even if you don't like it, can you send me your pc config ? the diagonal line is something strange and I want to get rid of it. only realized it on my gf4mx mobile before.
also other bugreports are welcome (by mail)
added on the 2002-11-10 00:39:23 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
diamondie: good to see your new PC is also working at maximum efficiency!
added on the 2002-11-10 01:22:15 by sagacity sagacity
It ran fine on my pc,
The textures were a bit ugly (ok VERY), but you can always make them better next time, I liked the synching, and some of the effects were cool as well

Keep on trucking!!

rulez added on the 2002-11-10 01:55:23 by IZM- IZM-
styx: There is nothing really special in it and so it starts to be boring quite fast. So a 3:15 intro can be 'to long' while a 10min demo can be very entertaining with the right content and atmosphere.
added on the 2002-11-10 02:24:31 by Crest Crest
Boring visuals. Terrible music.
sucks added on the 2002-11-10 04:44:37 by nf nf

integrated gfx cards are for lesbians

added on the 2002-11-11 00:59:01 by raver raver
It's good to see that headcrash are evolving. (Hi Styx, I remember some old bad DOS demos when I first visited the group's site) However there are still some bad things in the intro, like the ugly textures and the long scenes. The screenshots looked more interesting than when I watched the demo. That's why I downloaded it, I don't think I will want to watch it again. Some objects and scenes were interesting btw, but that's all. Better luck in the future, it gets the pig..

P.S. what means integrated gfx card btw?
added on the 2002-11-11 14:21:28 by Optimus Optimus
Ugly... bad colors, textures, models and music. And boring, too.
Sorry.
sucks added on the 2002-11-11 16:39:53 by pan pan
Optimus: It means you have a lousy gfx-card and you're too lazy to figure out the chipset so you just call it "integrated gfx card". Oh, and it crashes a lot of demos, apparently.
added on the 2002-11-11 17:17:00 by sagacity sagacity
The music is probably one of the worst intro tunes ever, sorry...

With better textures, music and design, this could have been something. Now it's just plain ugly and not interesting at all. Also the syncs kinda sucked.

I think you shouldn't make flybyes if you can't make them any good. Stick in the flatshaded-cubes-design then.
sucks added on the 2002-11-11 18:02:00 by dairos dairos
There are a few nice ideas, but the entire execution seems like a rough draft. All camera movements are completely devoid of life and really dull. The music is simply not good.
@optimus: we, at least, should try to do something like that mate ;)
added on the 2002-11-28 22:57:05 by BadSector BadSector
i managed to watch it. it sucked. although it sucked design-wise, not code wise. but overall, it sucked (I almost sorry for thumbing down)
sucks added on the 2002-11-28 23:40:31 by delta delta
boring.
ugly textures.
horrible music.
sucks added on the 2003-02-05 23:50:56 by kimi kandler kimi kandler

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