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Illogic
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release date : january 2014
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added on the 2014-01-29 16:16:05 by matref matref

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You can see an animated gif (only part of the program though) here, if you really don't want to bother sending it to your calc (shame on you) or if you don't have a compatible calc (double shame on you) : http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17963.0;attach=16775;ima ge
added on the 2014-01-29 16:23:08 by matref matref
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rulez added on the 2014-01-29 16:39:33 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
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rulez added on the 2014-01-31 02:46:22 by utz utz
Very nice, but:

Tried this in TiLEm 2.0 and WabbitEmu 1.7.2.11 with Ti83+ V1.16 ROM and V1.12 ROM.
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I opened the ILLOGIC.8xp file, pressed the "PRGM" button, highlighted "EXEC" 1:ILLOGIC, pressed "ENTER" (or pressing 1 does the same thing), both emu then showed "prgmILLOGIC", I then pressed "ENTER" again and only got "ERR:SYNTAX" 1:QUIT

What am I doing wrong here?
rulez added on the 2014-01-31 22:01:58 by ramon ramon
ramon did you read the readme included in the zip ? You must have at least 7167 bytes of free RAM and run the program with Asm(prgmILLOGIC). Asm( is found in the catalog [2nd] [0].
added on the 2014-02-01 09:22:02 by matref matref
@ matref

Yes, I've read it all before posting my question. Also went on many TI support sites to get better acquainted with the intricacies of the TI-83+.

Wabbitemu in TI-83+ mode on the V1.16 ROM gives me 24317 free RAM, of what I assume to be bytes, after a cold boot before loading the demo and 23280 after loading it (got this info by pressing "2nd, +, 2").

Tilem, also in TI-83+ mode, but on ROM V1.12, give me the exact same amount of free RAM before and after loading.

I've noticed that many games and apps require a shell interface called "ion". Super Mario ( http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/192/19225.html ) is an example of game you can't run straight into the calculator, you must load and run Ion before until it says "Ion Installed", then you load you app and run it. I tried that with the latest version of Ion (1.6) and the demo and after running it, it just said "done" and did nothing. Even with both Ion and the demo loaded simultaneously, I still had 20156 RAM Free.

Many other apps and games load just fine in Wabbitemu, I just can't run this demo! Apparently, Wabbitemu is the best and most compatible TI-83+ emu ever produced, and Tilem is not bad either so it SHOULD run.
added on the 2014-02-01 11:42:19 by ramon ramon
@ramon well I don't know what to say. It does run fine for me on both Wabbitemu and real HW, so I guess the only solution left would be to re-run Wabbitemu's setup wizard (Help menu IIRC) and generate a TI-83+ ROM using free software and OS 1.19, then do the exact same manipulation you did until now to run the demo.
added on the 2014-02-01 21:38:55 by matref matref
@matref

I read the instruction *again*, word by word, to realize that it specifically ask to run "Asm(prgmILLOGIC)", where "Asm" is VERY important! lol!

What I did, as mentioned is my first post, was to simply press "PRMG" after loading the demo and then run it straight like that. The correct procedure to run an ASM program is on TI website ( https://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/csksxvm.jsp?nSetId=99651 ).

So the full procedure to load the ASM demo is:

Load/open ILLOGIC.8xp, then press "2nd, catalog, asm, enter, PRGM, enter, enter".

I think it would be wise for the author to include that simple procedure in the instruction so people unfamiliar with the TI-83+ like me can easily run the demo.

Now works perfectly in Wabbitemu, Tilem and Virtual TI! :) The best experience is by far with Wabbitemu. The speed is better, the screen refresh is cleaner, crisper and can be detached (view/detached LCD) and stretched as large as you want!


Cheers,

Ramon
added on the 2014-02-02 01:49:55 by ramon ramon
@ramon "I think it would be wise for the author to include that simple procedure in the instruction so people unfamiliar with the TI-83+ like me can easily run the demo." → well, I did put that in both readme.txt and the post above yours ... anyway, glad you finally got it running :)
added on the 2014-02-02 16:13:55 by matref matref
Yep!!
rulez added on the 2014-02-05 11:21:56 by BackSpace BackSpace
@matref "well, I did put that in both readme.txt and the post above yours ..."

Where EXACTLY do you mention the full, step by step, idiot proof procedure: "Load/open ILLOGIC.8xp, then press "2nd, catalog, asm, enter, PRGM, enter, enter"" that I have proposed ???

It's mentioned no where in the readme.txt or this thread and it was precisely my initial point, point that you seem to have completely missed.

I guess I must not have made myself clear enough the first time about the "idiot proof" nature of the procedure I've suggested when I said "so people ***unfamiliar*** with the TI-83+ like me can ***easily*** run the demo." So I'm sorry and I apologize for the confusion. What I meant is this:

"Send ILLOGIC.8xp to your calculator" and "run the program with Asm(prgmILLOGIC). Asm( is found in the catalog [2nd] [0]." do no meet the "idiot proof" qualities of "Load/open ILLOGIC.8xp, then press "2nd, catalog, asm, enter, PRGM, enter, enter"" as far as procedures are concerned. Not comparable and not even close. My procedure is good enough even if you NEVER touched a TI-83 in your entire life, yours is not as it STILL requires at least a basic knowledge and underadjusting of the TI-83.

I hope I made my self clear enough this time. I hate confusion.
added on the 2014-12-21 00:21:49 by ramon ramon
Oh and BTW, the link "http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17963.0;attach=167 74" is broken.

This link is working: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/458/45819.html
added on the 2014-12-21 00:24:36 by ramon ramon

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