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screenshot added by ubik on 2008-08-27 12:53:57
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release date : august 2008
release party : NVScene 2008
compo : pc demo
ranked : 10th
  • rulez 50
  • is ok 19
  • sucks 5
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alltime top: #2205
added on the 2008-08-27 12:53:57 by ubik ubik

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looks good screeny
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 12:56:12 by stuey stuey
Mr.Acryll: you were wrong! worked on my ati machine :)

spox demo thumb!!
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 12:57:37 by magic magic
Suffers from "jumpy" direction, but a beautiful looking demo. I even got to run this in realtime on my 7800!
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 13:05:18 by Wade Wade
yep, definitely nice stuff here :) best demo from nvision i've seen so far.
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 13:10:43 by pro pro
so-so. i don't get the idea, too few scenes... not bad, in average
added on the 2008-08-27 14:13:21 by zzo zzo
Me likes! =)
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 16:26:50 by Aasemoon Aasemoon
boring,
added on the 2008-08-27 18:06:48 by panic panic
some really good scenes.
didn't like the city scene that much as it felt a bit empty. i like the music. overall too short, but still worth a thumb for sure.
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 18:47:33 by keith303 keith303
cube = life

some beautiful scenes/effects but why oh why the spoiling dirty overlay :p
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 19:14:54 by Zest Zest
Me too like it too..
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 19:41:41 by mad mad
some scenes with really beautiful shading
rulez added on the 2008-08-27 19:56:57 by blackpawn blackpawn
cool design
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 08:35:17 by aha aha
Some good scenes, great music, although the last scene runs too long..
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 08:35:43 by Optimus Optimus
A masterpiece -- beautiful graphics and and an awesome soundtrack, typical Anadune style. I really don't get why it's so underrated.
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 11:18:42 by KeyJ KeyJ
Some nice parts, but... yawn..
added on the 2008-08-28 17:05:35 by Maissi Maissi
decent enough
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 17:11:14 by psenough psenough
it's not bad, but the last scene is a perfect metaphor for the entire demo - so here goes my lack of a rulez!
added on the 2008-08-28 19:29:43 by ryg ryg
amazing soundtrack!
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 20:16:29 by stijn stijn
save the whale, use more cubes! very so-so
added on the 2008-08-28 20:20:47 by Maali Maali
Why is this not getting respect? Awesome soundtrack, great visuals. One of my favorites from NVscene.
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 21:03:20 by [HamsTeR] [HamsTeR]
This had some really nice visuals and a really nice soundtrack - but the last scene killed it a bit I think (too uneventfull and too long)
thumb!
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 21:04:26 by Puryx Puryx
Too slow with C2D 6750 + X1950 and XP, i can't watch it and enjoy it ....
need a video to enjoy the show and to judge it
added on the 2008-08-28 21:12:59 by _wheely_ _wheely_
video
added on the 2008-08-28 21:18:56 by wie8 wie8
It's a bit disconnected but especially those orange scenes look rather nice! Great soundtrack from Chaser, too. A very solid production!
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 21:46:29 by Stebo Stebo
This one definitely has its moments but also a fair amount of cheesyness and irritating camera movements
added on the 2008-08-28 22:35:49 by Optima Optima
Nice visuals.
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 22:57:11 by Alpha C Alpha C
surprisingly good - should've ranked higher..
rulez added on the 2008-08-29 12:16:07 by a-move a-move
nice
rulez added on the 2008-08-29 13:13:55 by las las
added on the 2008-08-29 13:15:36 by las las
nice, shiny, and alive. a bit disappointed that that it didn't show the cube-asphalt collision. and a bit jerky on a gtx280.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 03:04:38 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
Maybe not the first gfx wise, but it has definatly the best soundtrack of all the demos in the compo.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 12:42:38 by Salinga Salinga
what Salinga said, and definitely deserved a higher rank.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 13:01:55 by blz blz
I somehow liked it ...
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 13:56:08 by BiTbUsTeR BiTbUsTeR
gfx are quite cool, but soundtrack is awesome.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 14:08:47 by hunta hunta
I really like that effect in the screenshot, some nice scenes and good music.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 15:25:34 by Zplex Zplex
is there a video?
added on the 2008-08-30 15:51:53 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Very good demo, can't understand why it didn't get more votes/points. Keep up the good work dudes! :) Best Anadune demo so far!
added on the 2008-08-30 19:24:04 by Xiny6581 Xiny6581
some nice stuff in there, especially the music
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 21:09:52 by Bobic Bobic
I second Xiny... really good music from Chaser again... I don't get how the "whales-scene" should fit into the concept at all but I love it anyway :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 21:15:25 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
I agree this prod definately should have placed higher!
Nice viusals and cool flow
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 21:49:54 by ck ck
za zajebanie większości konceptów z naszego powstającego dema... duży zbieg okoliczności co ? że macie większość scenek i pomysłów takich jak my. Wystarczająco duży, zważywszy że akrylowi pokazałem dużo materiału i poprostu dopuścił się rippowania cudzego stuffu, ale w beznadziejnym wydaniu... tylko to nas różni.

kompletny brak oryginalności... nawet kadry w scenie miastem pokrywają się z moimi, tylko że moje miasto było o niebo lepsze jak i całość grafiki. Tak się nie robi, wykorzystać cudzy materiał tylko dlatego że chciałem to demo zrobić z tobą mr.acryl.

Fuckings. Wybrałeś co wybrałeś, czyli chujową jakość - bo dobrze wiesz kto zrobi to lepiej.

I tak nie scenuje już, bo nie mam na to czasu więc mam kompletnie w dupie co o mnie teraz powiecie
sucks added on the 2008-08-30 21:54:02 by wie8 wie8
If you wann fuck them up then say it in english please :)
added on the 2008-08-30 22:01:00 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Awesome!!!!!
rulez added on the 2008-08-31 12:09:54 by Virgill Virgill
Well Anadune dudes, quite lame behavior from your side. If all that what wie8 said is ture (and it seems at least to be), all the thumb up should turn down. It is said the thing like that still happen.

At least you should have talked it over.

...
added on the 2008-08-31 12:31:43 by sim sim
Nice music :) I like the orange parts.
rulez added on the 2008-08-31 14:01:51 by Zeila Zeila
Very nice!
rulez added on the 2008-09-01 19:08:27 by Mystra Mystra
Sim: no, it's not true
added on the 2008-09-01 21:34:29 by ubik ubik
way too short. Love the orange stuff. Want more!!
rulez added on the 2008-09-01 21:47:34 by neoneye neoneye
Sweet design on the logo part. Otherwise, not too impressive. Cubes, ribbons, dull soundtrack. No lasers on the whales' heads. Piggie.
added on the 2008-09-02 12:28:36 by break break
to wie8 (in polish, couse he begun this discussion): trudno mi w to uwierzyc z trzech powodow: 1. Mr. Acryl dal Ci narzedzia i pomagal w robieniu Angelic Forum. 2. Nie widzialem materialow ktore dostarczyles Acrylowi. 3. Gdyby na to patrzec w ten sposob jak Ty, mozna by napisac ze w Echoes pomsyly skopiowania z dziesiatek dem.
I jeszcze jedno: widzialem wyraz twarzy Acryla jak pokazal mi Twoj post i mam wrazenie ze najzwyczajniej w swiecie klamiesz.
rulez added on the 2008-09-02 13:34:36 by V0yager V0yager
damn poles speak english please :)
added on the 2008-09-02 15:25:28 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
short - Wie8 told that Mr. Acryl have stolen his ideas for this demo. I just don't believe that, couse Mr. Acryl gave also some demo tools to wie8, when he was working on Angelic Forum.
added on the 2008-09-02 15:54:29 by V0yager V0yager
angelic forum nie ma tu nic do rzeczy, miałem narzędzia - współpracowaliśmy, potem nie miałem narzędzi... Ale rozmawiałem z akrylem o Fascination - demo robione przez asenses w składzie : masterm, wie8, slizgi, jammer, substrate.

Dobrze wiedział że my też mieliśmy brac udział w nvision gdyż dostaliśmy demo boxa.. jakoś w czerwcu pokazałem mu pare scrinów i mówił że dużo rzeczy jest zajebistych. Zresztą mam to w dupie, chcesz to ci pokaże setki scrinów i obrazków to uwierzysz. Dodatkowo slizgi, masterm, substrate mogą zabrać głos.
added on the 2008-09-03 01:00:51 by wie8 wie8
Więc tyle osób może potwierdzić fakt kopiowania... brzydze się zachowaniem akryla.
added on the 2008-09-03 01:01:52 by wie8 wie8
co mają toole do faktu że zajebali nasze koncepty... co ? Angelic forum w to nie mieszaj, to przeszłość - rok 2007, że niby miałem toola i co teraz go oskarżam ? Jaki to ma sens, weź się zastanów.


To była jednorazowa kooperacja. Potem proponowałem inną kooperację.

Jak pokazałem akrylowi sceny i powiedziałem że może sobie to wziąść, to zadał pytanie - dasz radę to oteksturować ? (gdybym odpowiedział tak - użyli by mojej grafiki zapewne). Powiedziałem nie.. to zrobili coś identycznego na własną rękę.
added on the 2008-09-03 01:05:26 by wie8 wie8
Jetzt reichts aber...
added on the 2008-09-03 01:11:23 by Stebo Stebo
Well to those that have seen our concept art it's pretty obvious that many ideas in Acryl's demo are very similar (colorscheme, spline-letters, city scene and so on...). Unfortunately they are not only "borrowed" but also badly executed. That's my 3 cents.

I think we don't need to make another scenedrama here. The rest of this discussion can go on priv.

And just to make things clear: We _don't_ use Acryl's demotools.
sucks added on the 2008-09-03 01:12:05 by masterm masterm
rulez added on the 2008-09-03 01:30:15 by texel texel
Nice camera movement, great soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2008-09-03 04:59:45 by wiesio8 wiesio8
Has very much going for it, but unfortunately there is no real constrast or sense of direction. There are some cool scenes, and the music is nice though.
added on the 2008-09-03 08:26:53 by gloom gloom
sex and the city... i mean cubes. been there done that? pig.
added on the 2008-09-03 12:30:20 by comankh comankh
The soundtrack has managed to stay beyond the borders of cheese! I like it!
rulez added on the 2008-09-03 19:51:52 by chromag chromag
okay, since ubik didn't want to show these (can anyone can explain -- why!?): please, take a look at the pictures and judge by yourself.

http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/16992.jpg (anadune logo seen at the opening scene)

http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/ill_03.jpg (the approaching anadune sign is composed of the set of exactly three ribbons in quite a similar color scheme)

http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/ill_13.jpg
http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/ill_15.jpg (appallingly similar to the credits piece?)

http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/AS-City.jpg
http://asenses.untergrund.net/razor/AS_Ending3_FINAL.jpg

they were shown by wie8 to mr. acryl on 8th of May, 2008 -- and anadune staff was well-aware of the fact we're taking part in nvision. I think the resemblace they bear is quite obvious, isn't it? have in mind that we're sharing some concept art that was to be veiled till the official release date -- and please do respect that.

and okay, I know there are elements alike in demos, and a good number of them shares similar concepts in some points and in some ways. but saying that wie8 is lying is just motherfucking for me. sorry, I can't stand watching while you guys are making a fool of him! what's more, he wanted fascination (i.e. the demo the concepts are 'ripped' from) to be a mutual project of asenses and anadune, respectively. but *while* he wasn't able to do his share of his job, and *after* mr. acryl said that "it's a pity" and that there were many interesting ideas shown in fascination, he just transmitted (or 'ripped' if you like) some of them to his own demo on his own. I can't simply believe it was a subconscious process at all.

so, in the light of this tangible evidence, it's just a fucking shame. it can be said that echoes are just a weak spin-off of what fascination once could be.

sorry, guys.
sucks added on the 2008-09-04 03:01:21 by skurwy skurwy
Sorry Skurwy - but I don't see any similarities - maybe my imagination suxx or maybe I don't want to take part in yours conspiracy theories.
And stop telling bullshit like "...didn't want to show..." - what could I show? I've got these pictures yesterdey from wie8 (I really dont know why he sent them to me - if he thinks that we have stolen his ideas)
So bellow compare what you wanna do (really?) and what we made (left side Allien, right Anadanune - let's fight):

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short description: first two scenes were inspired by Fairlight productions (main this one), city scene was my idea, credits was inspired by this picture

btw. who is the author of your pictures (excluding city scene)? I would like to say "great job". I hope that you guys don't try to appropriate yourself someone elses work. Or maybe this stuff is not yours? You just saw this somewhere and said "we reserve this! from now this is our stuff!" - if thats how it works, I reserve everything what can be found on www.images.google.com. Ufff what a stupid idea.

One more thing, what with Allien Asences demo for NVision? as I know that you guys got demobox from NV, so you should do something to support this party.
added on the 2008-09-04 09:56:25 by ubik ubik
FR should patent cubes and FLT should patent ribbons. That would end talks for good ;-)
added on the 2008-09-04 16:54:08 by Fei Fei
i like it. deserves a better place.
rulez added on the 2008-09-04 19:17:17 by blala blala
good demo but a damn slow one
looks unfinished to me
added on the 2008-09-04 19:57:18 by gentleman gentleman
i really liked this one. should have ranked higher. cameras / transitions are horrible at some places, though.
oh, here's my thumb.
rulez added on the 2008-09-05 22:23:02 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
to much taken insperation :(
sucks added on the 2008-09-07 04:31:00 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
very nice, should've reached top 5 imho. and personally I believe most of the demomakers borrow their ideas somewhere in a way or another anyway.
rulez added on the 2008-09-07 18:23:36 by shadez shadez
boah hell ya... what kind of childish kindergarden battle... "hey don't use a red shovel because I already have a red one... and fuck you for building a brown sandcastle, that was my idea!!"
added on the 2008-09-07 18:34:14 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
it's just another perspective, kid, no need to flare up! there are two points of view from that time on and I don't give a freaking shit which one you like better and which one you choose. it's your goddamn problem; I'm not saying you must blindly follow my own stance. what I couldn't allow, though, is to let that crap just slip away without any notice, you understand me?
added on the 2008-09-08 00:04:53 by skurwy skurwy
Scene in the screenshot was great. Everything else felt a bit disconnected and unfinished. Music was ok.
added on the 2008-09-08 00:14:37 by raer raer
the prod rules
but skurwy ( whatever the story is ) rule much more :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-08 00:18:10 by nytrik nytrik
Me likes
rulez added on the 2008-09-08 11:05:38 by Marq Marq
excellent job.
rulez added on the 2008-09-08 11:16:04 by dalezr dalezr
one more thing : the logo scene is Really cool
added on the 2008-09-08 11:52:27 by nytrik nytrik
wie8, skurwy - just finish the goddamn prod and stop crying.
rulez added on the 2008-09-08 12:44:10 by comankh comankh
Awesome soundtrack from Chaser, as usual.
added on the 2008-09-08 13:14:55 by Cj Cj
I think that the "dirt" masks were unnecessary (and annoyed me). Otherwise, it's absolutely brilliant!
rulez added on the 2008-09-08 18:10:36 by untel untel
obejrzalem fajne demo, poczytalem komenty i zachcialo mi sie rzygac.
added on the 2008-12-03 22:54:24 by wrthlss wrthlss
Nice & moody
rulez added on the 2009-01-10 03:09:30 by T$ T$
Great demo, but maybe it falls too much on cubes.
rulez added on the 2009-07-20 16:02:29 by xernobyl xernobyl
Whales! :D
rulez added on the 2009-09-20 20:08:11 by Jakim Jakim
short, and some weird direction, piggie
added on the 2012-03-03 12:33:56 by Frequent Frequent
generic and cheesy music.
sucks added on the 2013-03-10 15:22:57 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
this is so nice :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-29 19:50:31 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
nice

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