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Marsik by Razor 1911 [web]
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screenshot added by Parasight on 2001-11-12 11:39:40
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release date : november 2001
release party : Kindergarden 2001
compo : pc demo
ranked : 2nd
  • rulez 18
  • is ok 27
  • sucks 25
popularity : 63%
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  • sucks -0.10
alltime top: #36247
added on the 2001-11-12 11:39:40 by Parasight Parasight

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We are not dead ;)

Well done boys!

peace

IZM/Razor1911
rulez added on the 2001-11-12 11:45:43 by IZM- IZM-
W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever!
rulez added on the 2001-11-12 11:56:22 by deSynx deSynx
if it doesn't work on your video card, then send it to me :D
rulez added on the 2001-11-12 11:56:37 by replay replay
Yeah, coz replay will fix your video card then ;)

Great work boys! I love the design! The music suits perfect!

Paris^RZR
rulez added on the 2001-11-12 12:04:50 by Parasight Parasight
empty++cliché++dull++slow
added on the 2001-11-12 13:03:51 by _-_-__ _-_-__
why do you rate your own production?
sucks added on the 2001-11-12 13:43:02 by smash smash
why not?
added on the 2001-11-12 14:19:39 by replay replay
yawn.. oooh, there's a blue line moving.. yawn.. oh, there are greetz, yawn.. meta-yawn-balls.. yawnshaded cubes, ain't that cute.. yawn.. yawntune rulez.. wake me up when it's over, yawn..
added on the 2001-11-12 14:39:48 by bhead bhead
voting for your own production sucks.
sucks added on the 2001-11-12 14:59:52 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
You better sue us now, Macaw ;)
added on the 2001-11-12 15:30:00 by Parasight Parasight
Dear GOD this is boring. And uninteresting.
sucks added on the 2001-11-12 17:56:24 by sagacity sagacity
boring. just some simple 3d objects ..
added on the 2001-11-12 18:04:38 by bruce bruce
seen that a billion times. it's soo slow and no new ideas at all.
sucks added on the 2001-11-12 18:36:20 by robotriot robotriot
Come on all !

It's a comeback ... GIve RAZOR1911 sometime to get all their things up ...

Keep up IZM !!
added on the 2001-11-12 18:56:08 by kohai kohai
i understand that opinion when we'd be talking about first demos by absolute newbies. but one could expect more behind that big name.
added on the 2001-11-12 19:20:48 by robotriot robotriot
bollocks is this a "razor comeback". its not the original people. its a load of wannabies living on the name.
dont rate them on what they used to be, rate them on what they do now. and the stuff they have done has been really pretty bad.
they wont "get their things up" because they arent the real thing.

sorry..
added on the 2001-11-12 19:52:33 by smash smash
What is this?

"We decided to remove the memberlist for security reasons. If you need to get in touch with someone from our team, feel free to email us and we'll see what we can do to help."


sucks added on the 2001-11-12 20:53:42 by Wain Wain
"crap as fuck" (tn)
sucks added on the 2001-11-12 21:27:56 by dixan dixan
yeah, right, this is not the ORIGINAL team, from the back dayz ...

Or maybe i'm too high on COOLNESS and LAIDBACK 'oldskool-friendship-ok-not-the-best-but-keep-up' spirit
added on the 2001-11-12 22:53:23 by kohai kohai
"bollocks is this a "razor comeback". its not the original people. its a load of wannabies living on the name."

WTF would you know?
Dont like the production, say so, but keep your lame bullshit to yourself, cos you dont know fuck all.
added on the 2001-11-12 23:29:33 by IZM- IZM-
i do not like this prod. it is boring.
besides that, smash is right.
sucks added on the 2001-11-13 00:01:57 by PigPen PigPen
Smash, are you the orginal from fairlight?

if no, fuck off.
added on the 2001-11-13 00:11:56 by IZM- IZM-
Smash, are you the orginal from fairlight?

if no, fuck off.
added on the 2001-11-13 00:23:42 by IZM- IZM-
It's big fun to watch some retards here claim facts without even get to know the truth first. I always thought some arab countries are full of lamers who speak without switching on their brains. I might have to reconsider this opinion and include a couple of demoscene members too.

Listen, Razor1911 Demo Division -IS- official. If you don't believe this, why not just contact original Razor1911 founders and ask?

Oh, I'm sorry I forgot that those idiots here - who identify themselves as impersonated wisdom - they won't even probably know their handles.

If that's the case, contact me so I can send you a tissue. We're so sorry you won't find members on the razor homepage, but this is probably because we don't want to get spammed by guys who ask similar stupid questions or come up with "highest-standard rumours" like these.

If you have no brain, please swap your keyboard for a cell culture that can take over this job for ya.

Last but not least - If you don't like Marsik, then be happy and spank. We never claimed Marsik to be revolutionary or to kick the shit out of the rest. Still, I think Marsik looks very well designed - it's clean, nice and if you take a look at the size, it would also make up a good intro. The goal of Marsik is "design", a job that I think has been done well!

Thumbs up.
Chotaire
rulez added on the 2001-11-13 00:29:49 by Chotaire Chotaire
I love. (espacially the cheapdemo)
Remember an old amiga demo from razor "WE ARE FIRST" i'am looking for... (big scroll & vertical raster)
any links to D/L ?
rulez added on the 2001-11-13 01:00:03 by Buckethead Buckethead
Woa.

This thingy is about as interesting as watching grass growing.

Don't understand all the hype though - it's just a booooring attempt to do a design intro, and whether this is a Razor 1911 production or not doesn't change anything for better or for worse.

This is a comeback intro? Your problem. Don't see in what way that changes anything though.
sucks added on the 2001-11-13 01:13:48 by ryg ryg
This demo breaks new ground by giving the term 'boring' new meaning. Okay, so the code seems polished, but that's to be expected for something so simple.
sucks added on the 2001-11-13 03:38:48 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
hmm.. well.. I do agree that it is sort of boring. I think people have been a little harsh in the comments because they're annoyed with the razor members posting and rating here though :)
It's good to see an intro by some members I don't recognize which is polished/dignified and seems to have accomplished all of what it was intended to.. so it could be a sign of good things to come? do people find me too optimistic? :)
added on the 2001-11-13 09:09:40 by bigcheese bigcheese
yes izm i am the original smash from fairlight =) and i was in razor1911 in 1999-2000, in the first "official razor comeback".
so the point is, yeh its "official" because the razor warez organisers have sanctioned it. but its not the "original" and much loved razor crew from amiga days. so dont compare it. its no real "comeback". treat it as a new group or something and forget all the stupid hype..
added on the 2001-11-13 10:58:09 by smash smash
wahen a good group die ... it s over ...
1) because founders were good at their time and because it s no longerthe case with d3d and so ...

2)Because team spirit is gone

3) because even if founders come back they never have the free time they had when they were young

Demo is a matter of youth...
that s sad but that s all.

sucks added on the 2001-11-13 12:48:25 by nytrik nytrik
nytrik: not true. you won't believe how many sceners there are who have been among us for already more than 10 years and who put more time into productions than they did when they were pupils. When it comes to your theory of team spirit, that's wrong too.... it's always a question of PEOPLE to remember the spirit - if they can, it's alright, if they can't they might wanna retire sooner or later, since they'll put their spare time into other reallife things then. the sooner you climb the top, the sooner you will be bored, because your "idols" turn out to be just normal humans with pimples and stinking t-shirts. :)

smash: what hype? you're about to see some well designed productions by very talented sceners. some of them been there almost as long as the first person speaking about "2922" (one reason why YOU might not know them). but what hype? did I miss anything?

bigcheese: yours is one of the first useful comments on this topic. congrats.
added on the 2001-11-13 15:01:28 by Chotaire Chotaire
disappointing
sucks added on the 2001-11-13 15:47:10 by mrdoob mrdoob
the irony of naming the coder after the group that they obviously ripped is kinda amusing ;-)

but if you're going to watch razor-demo-pc stuff, then go watch mindstammer og bewahren sie ruhe.
maybe you should cut of ten minutes each scene it pretty darn boring.
rulez added on the 2001-11-13 17:46:32 by protectin'myhive protectin'myhive
it sucks even :D
macaw: You're the most funny child of them all. Why not advertize your own shit on your own homepages? Your homepages are unfinished beta crap for ages - if I was as funny as you, I'd say it reflects your character perfectly :)

You're shortterm razor1911 HISTORY from just a dozen months ago - you don't obviously make me believe you are the reborn Razor spirit himself. When you got interested into the scene, the old days of Razor were already over for ages. Wherever I look, I see you pissing on Razor. Have you ever thought about the possibility that the OLD razor members PISS on you? :)

Ok, enough rags with embryos for this week - you're just as boring as you claim the demo to be. Your attitude is just lame, I wouldn't wonder if you're groupless nowadays (atleast ojuice says so, why not atleast update THAT page instead of pissing against every tree you find?)

PS. Don't even think of boring me with useless replies. I cared about flames from guys with an attitude like yours at times when you thought that the "scene" is actually something like "my mother gets beaten up by my father again". You sweet arrogant pussy ;)

Off for something real.
added on the 2001-11-13 22:12:47 by Chotaire Chotaire
Don't fuck with history. We all know what scene has been in the past, but real sceners are more involved in what scene is nowadays and in the incoming future. Leave memories to grannies...
added on the 2001-11-13 22:24:28 by dixan dixan
www.chotaire.net

<< News for sceners: I have recently joined forces at Razor 1911 demo division. I'll be the musician and craptalker for the time being. It's a pleasure for me to be in a group that probably is the overall best ranked PC scene group in history. Being used to be a member of #1 groups, such as AFL on c64, I enjoy to continue this tradition.
>>
added on the 2001-11-13 22:29:17 by _-_-__ _-_-__
I don't even understand how and why someone it can be said it's "well designed". If you have the answer, tell me !
sucks added on the 2001-11-13 22:47:30 by Antoche Antoche
Someone said it was well-designed because that person was a member of Razor.
added on the 2001-11-13 22:52:39 by sagacity sagacity
chotaire, please enlighten us as to who are these older razor members that took part in making this intro?

also, who ranked razor1911 to be the #1 pcscene group and when?
added on the 2001-11-13 23:07:43 by kuuba kuuba
Why not start a BBS-thread over this stupid argument? As I see it, this isn't the place.

The prod; Even though the music was nice, it's far too slowly paced, and it didn't really have any content. Borderline to sucks.
added on the 2001-11-13 23:47:56 by fractalgp fractalgp
I think your right, this isnt the place, but its funny to me, that its the ex razor members who diss the hardest.
We dont claim to be number 1 and its obviuos we are far from it, but, that doesnt mean we dont put in effort.
It seems everyone just slags on everyone elses releases, no matter if its good or shit, then when they release somethig, they say "Oh but we made this in 3 mins" when you know its a load of shit. I cant see why people cant be more positive and takes things less serious, you know your gonna end up with bowel cancer anyhow ;)

IZM
added on the 2001-11-14 00:15:17 by IZM- IZM-
Interesting colors and 'ok' music. The effects are nothing new or exciting, the design is missing and (oh yes) it's boring. It does not suck however. :-)

"I hate soap opera" (c)
added on the 2001-11-14 03:24:10 by moT moT
IZM: "We dont claim to be number 1", ok. What does comments like "WE ARE THE BEST" mean then?
macaw, come now, are you really so stupid as to think he was not JOKING?!
"W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever! "

ffs , if you dont think its a joke, then you are.
added on the 2001-11-14 09:48:33 by IZM- IZM-
Sorry, but judging by the way you're behaving here, this could've very well been serious.
added on the 2001-11-14 10:41:15 by ryg ryg
hey cool, another war.

but ehm, this prod sucks donkeydick, it is more boring than.. well... something extremely boring...
sucks added on the 2001-11-14 12:38:18 by ileaardbei ileaardbei
wow what a war...
Are all people sceners here? I see many "sucks" from people who present nothing...
Where is the spirit? demoscene is a pleasure, not a duty!
some people who think are scener because they are seeing some demos are just lamers.
stop fucking razor off, or any other demo group, product for fun.
added on the 2001-11-14 13:20:07 by babs^doh babs^doh
Hehe, a bit too many comments here..
Ok, so it is boring, and it lasts too long. It's just an intro, and we made it for fun.
Get over it! =)
added on the 2001-11-14 14:22:30 by sprocket sprocket
It's better than the last razor production I saw, (can't remember it's name... well it was a weird name anyway, like '#$@%22643' or something) and it actually lost to our gameboy demo (here) at the party :p.
Not so bad this intro, quite boring though...
added on the 2001-11-14 15:25:10 by lai lai
boring indeed - but it takes off really nice - i mean the very beginning. compared to lots of other productions coming out these days, i dont think this one sucks - its a decent little intro, just nothing outstanding.
added on the 2001-11-14 17:40:37 by raver raver
It's cool. 3d ... 2d is nice too, scrolltext, paralax, sprite, bob...

"Demo" came from the old school, no ? So why tell that Demo is a matter of youth :((

Pc demo doesn't make me crazy:
"whaaa! what a great stuff, i can't believe it". Only few releases are cool.
I explain: Nothing fabulous if you look with what hardware they have been coded. When i look a quake like, i think that 3d is a bit boring if you don't use 2d effects.
I love these long scrolltext... It like if that has never exist now :(
Demo doesnt need to be the most technical, but must make us think that was impossible to do, without weird things, but only artistics stuff and FUN.
I loooOOOOoove you Razor !
This intro is a bit little for a lot of people, but for me you rule, and i enjoy your return :)

(sorry for the bad english)
"but if you're going to watch razor-demo-pc stuff, then go watch mindstammer og bewahren sie ruhe"

hahahahahahahaha wahwhahahaha
YES, everyone go see Mindstammer, cos it's done by Macaw, and see how "31337" this demo is produce by the guy who say the most in here who is also a ex-Razor.
added on the 2001-11-15 02:55:26 by deSynx deSynx
actually macaw had no part in mindstammer, we did it before he joined. get your facts right before your flame, jees..
added on the 2001-11-15 10:50:56 by smash smash
smash: he mentioned two productions. he was involved into one of them and future comrades were involved into the prior one. not a big deal, and it's cool to be proud of own productions, but why promote that in the same post? looked pretty childish to me, but oh well... I don't give a flying pile.

macaw: thanks for posting my homepage contents here. still, it's obvious I have not been mentioning the demo division in that one sentence, and even if I did: I show something like "SUPPORT" and "BELIEVE" into my group, such as I have deepest respects for the groups I was in before. This is something that other people should learn to, it makes history worthier to remember and future more productive :)

babs^doh: I don't know you, but you absolutely got the point. we are productive for supporting the scene and make it more fun, such as to give pleasure to people who like what we do. if others don't like it, why don't they just shut up and do it better themselves? competition is not "talk talk talk", it's about to DO BETTER and drink a beer with those who were beaten. we're not in afghanistan.

kuuba: everyone who wanted to be listed for productive work within the demo is to be seen in the credits. those who are not listed to be supportive, don't want you to know. we have reasons for not publishing a few members, as they are not interested in contacts. closing topic here, sorry for not helping you out on this case.

although ragging is big fun (such as it always was), there are a few people here to might be right when they say this is not the right place for that shit. why not close topic?

I think there are some people who overreact on primarily "fun comments", they have gotten a common reply and we should just continue to be productive. catch you all l8ers.

added on the 2001-11-15 16:39:46 by Chotaire Chotaire
i agree on the fact that this is a bit slow and long/boring but it's not worst than today's average accelerated shit... if you gave it a "suck", you'd put your thumbs down for more than 50% of new PC productions... i guess this sort of flame war is mainly motivated by the fact that they call themselves Razor 1911 :)
added on the 2001-11-15 18:23:24 by brioche brioche
macaw, I still love you, but when will you ever say anything good about anybodys work? every post you do is negative nacy stuff. I guess it makes it all the more fun.

"the irony of naming the coder after the group that they obviously ripped is kinda amusing ;-) "

what did that mean anyhow?
Everyone here seems to bit a bit muddled on stuff. On Facts mainly. Flame wars are great, if you have the correct information.

Know your enemy like your best friend.

added on the 2001-11-16 09:10:18 by IZM- IZM-
I appologize for voting for our own prod. i did'nt think twice about it ;) So no hard feelings please!

macaw, I agree with IZM here... you rarely say something positive about other ppls productions. How come? Is there a way to make you say "Wow!"? You even argued about intros like the.product... I wonder how someone is supposed to make you happy :)

Well, in the end it should be fun. That's why we do the things we do ;)

Paris
added on the 2001-11-16 14:04:13 by Parasight Parasight
haha... is this slow or what?!
like wathing a cube spinning 1 rpm for 10 minutes.
even the chiptune isn't very good.
sucks added on the 2001-11-17 10:02:07 by raymon raymon
I think this is quite neat for 46kb. A bit "slow", but the design was very well done. A nice "demo" clearly attempting to grasp the essence of old Razor 1911 design (and I should know).

Spreading the news around the world since 1985!

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added on the 2001-11-19 00:40:13 by Sector9 Sector9
cavity searches are more fun
sucks added on the 2001-11-22 15:49:59 by Shifter Shifter
IZM: replay is/was a swedish demogroup.
Veeeeery slow, but nice. I like it.
rulez added on the 2001-11-22 18:07:52 by Gargaj Gargaj
Deathly boring. I had more fun in my French exam.
sucks added on the 2001-11-22 22:09:20 by golrien golrien
"code. replay"
so it seems
sucks added on the 2001-11-22 23:38:36 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
"IZM: replay is/was a swedish demogroup. "

I know they are also a demo group.. and what does that have to do with us? cos we have a coder named replay.
where is the similarity?.

FFS.

IZM
added on the 2001-11-23 00:01:14 by IZM- IZM-
boring, too slowpaced... nothing happening... dissappointing... I actually do expect more from Razor1911 (even if this is made by new guys)
sucks added on the 2001-11-23 02:34:11 by britelite britelite
Ok, I had promised myself I would not rant on here, but I cant help myself anymore.

First of all, if you people read the nfo, you will find the following text;

"Intro coded in 4 days from scratch!"

This was just something we whipped up really fast just so that me and Sprocket could deliver something for Razor at Kindergarden. None of us thought it would get this much attension.

For heavens sake, IT WAS JUST A FAST PRODUCTION MADE IN 4 (four) DAYS! :)

Well, we are Razor 1991, and we have created some really impressive stuff in the past, but come on.. Even God used 6 days to create something substasial :)

Ok, enough of this. Focus on the future, and I promise you'll see some truly amazing releases. :)

Peace, love and free snacks to you all :)

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Slumgud
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added on the 2001-11-23 13:36:25 by slumgud slumgud
Ok, I had promised myself I would not rant on here, but I cant help myself anymore.

First of all, if you people read the nfo, you will find the following text;

"Intro coded in 4 days from scratch!"

This was just something we whipped up really fast just so that me and Sprocket could deliver something for Razor at Kindergarden. None of us thought it would get this much attension.

For heavens sake, IT WAS JUST A FAST PRODUCTION MADE IN 4 (four) DAYS! :)

Well, we are Razor 1991, and we have created some really impressive stuff in the past, but come on.. Even God used 6 days to create something substasial :)

Ok, enough of this. Focus on the future, and I promise you'll see some truly amazing releases. :)

Peace, love and free snacks to you all :)

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Slumgud
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added on the 2001-11-23 13:36:33 by slumgud slumgud
Please, stop stupid comments and do some incredible prods !

Stv/Popsy TeaM
rulez added on the 2001-11-23 13:49:53 by Stv Stv
anyways for 4 days coding it's good !!!
added on the 2001-11-23 13:58:33 by Stv Stv
"hey, let's make an average dull flat shaded 'design' intro, only we'll have the fucker run in slowmo!"
"wow man, great idea!"
sucks added on the 2001-11-24 00:06:00 by _ _
get over it,

Masterbate
added on the 2001-11-24 07:55:16 by IZM- IZM-
damn. i've had an idea of making one like _'s description for ages, except that it would become asymptotically slower and slower and slower and never finish.

oh well.. gotta think of something even better (tm)

(no i haven't seen this. and not going to. judging by comments the prod is completely irrelevant.)
added on the 2001-12-10 21:58:31 by 216 216
Hmm
it's not bad why does it have to be fast ?
it kinda flows with the music and slumgud is one of the best composers in the demoscene only my five cents.
Estrayk is still my favourite though.
sure i have seen better but well maybe razors next production will be as good as the best ive seen.
added on the 2001-12-27 00:11:21 by Ural13 Ural13
yes it's slow, so what?
the music rocks
rulez added on the 2002-01-10 00:38:23 by karnof karnof
The popularity bar should be replaced by a controversity one. :)

Not much to look at. Very slow paced. The music is rather good actually.
added on the 2002-01-24 20:30:42 by tomaes tomaes
what the hell is this hunk of shit? I think I fell asleep during this.. what utter bollox! no real content, just simple objects, my granma could code better than this in 512bytes (music and all!) avoid this pile of crap.. music sucks arse too.. u can't of honestly had fun coding this..

this poop should have a health warning.. may induce coma.. its rubbish!!!

ok, I'm done.
sucks added on the 2002-03-10 16:27:18 by sulphur sulphur
made me yawn :/ - but the music was ok
sucks added on the 2002-03-10 17:26:37 by gekko gekko
sulphur, aleast ure original in you comment, no1 asked you to dl it, but you did, and u felt deep pain, maybe you need an enema?
I suggest, 2 prozac a day!
if your grandma can code better than us, ask to join us for me will ya?!
thanx!
added on the 2002-04-08 15:51:41 by IZM- IZM-
bahhhhhhhh
rulez added on the 2002-07-01 03:18:16 by cats cats
bahhhhhhhh
sucks added on the 2002-09-06 05:43:57 by reed reed
boring ...
sucks added on the 2002-09-27 12:16:22 by nufan nufan
i dont give a shit about production times.
4 days is *way* too long for this =)

bring on the better excuses ;)
added on the 2002-09-27 12:21:14 by superplek superplek
W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever!
- = -
This is the lowest form
of communication
I've seen.
bye.
sucks added on the 2002-09-27 13:26:23 by XteNt XteNt
Nice design, nice music, tidy code (again) by replay = 8/10
Not living up to razor history = irrelevant

If only people would judge productions based on face value instead of perceived reputation. Its getting very boring to hear 'Not as good as hjb/fr/blah'
rulez added on the 2002-10-27 16:03:33 by Mtl Mtl
strange but cool
added on the 2002-12-06 18:53:05 by sokoban sokoban
Shut the fuck up everybody and make GOOD prods, please! Thank you.
added on the 2002-12-06 19:00:58 by asasel asasel
Perfectly boring.
Clean design.
Thumb up.
rulez added on the 2002-12-17 00:10:30 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
I liked it, the objects outlines fitted quite well, in my opinion :P
rulez added on the 2003-02-09 19:48:45 by shash shash
quiet.
rulez added on the 2004-01-12 05:29:33 by crusader crusader
nice
rulez added on the 2004-08-05 05:02:10 by legalize legalize
Haha, the comments are fun. The prod, sadly, is not.
added on the 2006-01-07 00:21:14 by Preacher Preacher
Ugly and boring. Real Razor is here. :)
added on the 2006-01-07 15:30:22 by StingRay StingRay
or here.. ;P
added on the 2006-01-08 17:34:54 by madMixx madMixx
It is sad to say, but razor is dead...
added on the 2007-09-17 17:21:29 by #535 #535
sucks added on the 2008-05-10 16:41:29 by #535 #535
nice chillout demo
for the drama
rulez added on the 2013-10-06 17:05:35 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
ok
added on the 2014-03-12 22:33:37 by maracuja maracuja
The comments here have historical value. It's good to see that all this hatred and arrogance from 15 years ago has vanished.
rulez added on the 2016-04-29 09:10:58 by xTr1m xTr1m

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