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screenshot added by mrdoob on 2013-07-28 01:09:41
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release date : july 2013
release party : Euskal 2013
compo : combined demo
ranked : disqualified
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popularity : 62%
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added on the 2013-07-28 01:09:41 by mrdoob mrdoob

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rulez added on the 2013-07-28 01:26:55 by Negostrike Negostrike
love the minimalist style, reminded me a lot of hplus, good music too!
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 01:34:24 by mantratronic mantratronic
Oh boy, oh boy - finally a new XPLSV!
Not even sure what I'm more excited about, that framejs got a couple of lines more code or that one finally can meet XPLSV purple again.

However for the prod itself, the things that sticked out to me the most where the tune and the sync, both rock - and give me a tense feeling that something big will happen - which unfortunately never does. Though with the fine selected colours it's quite enjoyable - and having read that this was done in a hurry it's quite amazing.

YAY! <3
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 01:44:18 by mog mog
Cool minimal demo.

"disqualified"?
added on the 2013-07-28 01:51:46 by xernobyl xernobyl
thumb
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 01:51:55 by xernobyl xernobyl
Deadline time shenanigans pushed this one out. Unfair, indeed.
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 03:08:35 by stage7 stage7
With only 2 demos on the compo?
added on the 2013-07-28 03:15:55 by xernobyl xernobyl
A bit too boring and formulaic for me.
added on the 2013-07-28 03:23:07 by Alpha C Alpha C
\o/
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 04:41:19 by trc_wm trc_wm
Theres a great connection here between the music track and the visuals, both in style and pace & flow.

After the first scene change i thought the demo was over, but then it continued, got a bit darker and had a few nice scenes.

Not spectacular but very enjoyable demo :)
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 06:17:25 by keito keito
I like this. Please fix the clipping cam paths/objects, course the ruin a lot.
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 07:01:00 by maytz maytz
video?
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 10:52:52 by moqui moqui
What Keito said, and I love the music in traditional elbee style!
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 11:16:52 by Bobic Bobic
A bit too simple surfaces for my taste and a tad to the long/boring side in places, however a relatively solid demo, with a solid track.
A weak thumb :)
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 11:36:34 by Puryx Puryx
Nice music, simple visuals but effective.
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 12:42:21 by Optimus Optimus
Clean and sweet - I like the music a lot.
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 13:01:21 by gloom gloom
minimalist synesthetics without the psy. nice soundtrack indeed ;)
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 14:29:32 by maali maali
No go on chromium 30, a light blue screen with some polygons.
added on the 2013-07-28 14:34:08 by noby noby
download link pls.
added on the 2013-07-28 15:02:50 by Gargaj Gargaj
yay, xplsv are back! it's a bit long and uneventful, but the music is great and should not be cut. :D
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 15:30:01 by v3nom v3nom
superb soundtrack! the visuals fit well too and ran fine in chrome. top notch javascript demo!
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 15:33:03 by loaderror loaderror
Firefox ran it well. Nice visuals, but some of the colors were quite bad, particularly the screenshot part. Decent electro track too.
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 15:45:15 by noby noby
Yes top js demo, music is kiskass, good minimalistic style
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 15:49:34 by jack-3d jack-3d
fine webdemo worked great on chrome 28 on my hp laptop
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 17:22:26 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
the abstract gfx shown are not too impressive but work quite well with the kickass soundtrack!
solid thumb
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 19:08:34 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Great concept and execution. Could have been tolerable to watch if the sync had been accurate.
added on the 2013-07-28 19:53:55 by Blueberry Blueberry
I followed a little bit of the creation of this demo, which makes it a bit special to me. Best part the city and the constant transformation of the objects in the center.

rulez added on the 2013-07-28 20:13:11 by Navis Navis
This was great. I really loved the first part most - the sync on the central object just rules, it's just a simple randomly changing object yet the tight sync makes it so much more.

Tune sounds seriously good too, I'm now really looking forward to listening again on non-laptop speakers :D
rulez added on the 2013-07-28 23:08:32 by psonice psonice
Good minimalist demo! The city part was a nice surprise.

@Blueberry: Difficult task. The synchro was done at the noisy partyplace.

@xernobyl: Disqualified, unfortunately. The should extend the deadline next year!
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 07:23:44 by ham ham
Simple, but I liked it.
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 10:48:54 by slack slack
nice design/idea fits in the music.
Althought, personally, that black background, in some parts, makes me feel a bit dissapointed.

Perphaps a subtle noise shader would do the
work.

Great demo anyway. Thank you!
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 10:50:06 by JaK JaK
is it 2002 again? :)

could use a visual upgrade.
(would be cool to do actually, as a remix)
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 11:15:29 by superplek superplek
Just rewatched, tune does indeed rule hard :D

I'm curious about browser differences here though. I watched on safari last night. Today, it just plain won't run - I get a static picture, no demo. Have restarted the browser, no difference, no idea why since other 3js/webgl stuff works. Well, webgl is still flaky in safari, guess that's why it's not enabled by default :) Or has the code changed in the last 12 hours on the online version? If so, it broke safari / OSX support.

It ran fine in chrome (28, OSX), but the sync in the first part didn't make the same impact. I'm guessing there's some latency issue then, which could either be chrome, or some audio delay since I stuck headphones in. It ran super smoothly in both browsers so I can't see it being framerate related.

Anyway, lesson there: if you're synching to those very fast parts latency gets very important. And I suspect even if it was just syncing to the bass drum, latency would cause some loss of impact.
added on the 2013-07-29 12:41:13 by psonice psonice
psonice: I replaced the .mp3 with a .ogg so Firefox could run it too. Safari doesn't support .ogg. You shouldn't use a browsers that don't want to support .ogg.
added on the 2013-07-29 12:57:56 by mrdoob mrdoob
"Use whatever tool gets the job done best". Lack of .ogg support is so rarely an issue it's not worth switching browser for. Makes more sense to just keep a few installed for those rare occasions when something doesn't work :)
added on the 2013-07-29 13:11:08 by psonice psonice
Yup. Well, now you know the reason of why it stopped working.

I could easily keep both mp3 and ogg files and let the browser choose which one to play. But I don't think Safari deserves it.
added on the 2013-07-29 13:19:14 by mrdoob mrdoob
It's your demo :) Pity though, I wanted to watch it in safari again to see if there's really a latency issue somewhere or I'm imagining it.
added on the 2013-07-29 13:23:40 by psonice psonice
Nice. Like the music.
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 15:53:16 by raer raer
Nice! I miss some more accurate synching as well, but knowing how quickly it was done, I can't really complain.
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 18:19:00 by zomb zomb
*syncing!
added on the 2013-07-29 18:20:05 by zomb zomb
Zomb: it's likely browser dependent from my experience. Might be worth trying different browsers.
added on the 2013-07-29 19:04:56 by psonice psonice
psonice: I don't think is browser dependent. It just happens that I failed to sync properly a few things because my code wasn't ready for it. Basically the light flashing on the tunnel scenes, those are out of control.

However, if scene changes are out of sync, then we have a problem...
added on the 2013-07-29 19:11:53 by mrdoob mrdoob
Nice looking but boring demo with great music.
added on the 2013-07-29 23:58:55 by StingRay StingRay
good visuals (except for the text) & good sound.
The direction/sync is very enjoyable.
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 09:19:53 by wullon wullon
Rather weak
sucks added on the 2013-07-30 09:25:08 by Zplex Zplex
kinda neat.
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 09:47:49 by kusma kusma
The tune and visuals works great together. It could use some tighter sync but Hey, nice work for a fast prod.

Oh... the thing I really dislike is the red text saying OBSIDIAN. Really? red? Should have sticked to white or switched to ... obsidian black and show the title in negative with the 3D shapes behind.


About the disqualification, I'm sure the deadline was the same for everyone, and it looks like three demos were delivered on time. Surely this could have been coordinated better to give a few extra hours to everyone but I wouldn't call this unfair. :\
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 10:47:35 by p01 p01
p01: Yeah. I'm also unhappy about that color. Initially it was white, but I thought of using the red/pink to hint the next scene. Also I wanted the text to fadeout so you could see the spheres approaching... If planets align I'll be fixing that and some other things.
added on the 2013-07-30 11:02:21 by mrdoob mrdoob
Mrdoob: sync in General is fine. It's just that primitive switching object in the 1st scene. Unless it was just a happy coincidence, 1st time I watched the changes were perfectly synced to the synth. 2nd time it wasn't as good, and when it's this fast I think 1-2 frames of lag would explain it. I can see browsers buffering/presenting frames differently.

Maybe at some point it's worth testing latency in different browsers, so the audio can be offset for perfect sync?

And oh yeah, that red text, please fix it :D
added on the 2013-07-30 11:31:13 by psonice psonice
p01: And I agree. Is not unfair. But it's funny how even by having just 4 demos they saw themselves forced to disqualify one of them. I'm sure they're not happy of giving the money to the demo that ended up 3rd (joke prod). The core of the problem is the way the set up the system was by having a "professional" jury doing the judging 12 hours before the demoshow.
added on the 2013-07-30 12:10:30 by mrdoob mrdoob
Nice looking but boring demo with great music.
i give it a tiny thumb nevertheless.
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 12:21:22 by a-move a-move
mrdoob: as a compo-organizer my feelings are as follows: "Is this prod getting an unfair advantage by a few extra hours? Aka: will it get INSANELY BETTER by it? Or will it simply be "finished"? If the latter: allow it."
added on the 2013-07-30 12:24:48 by gloom gloom
Very nice. I enjoyed the whole minimalist impression, made me thought of Rez (the videogame) indeed... the track is great but well, I would have few doubts about it, considering the guys.

Was it disqualified for the deadline or is it an excuse to say that you didn't use materials from the scene?

Om unit is from planet-mu and Lorn is from brainfeeder and now on Ninja Tune.
mrdoob: Btw, I'm still not quite sure what you meant there. And I'm curious to know what you think of this as a fellow demo & JS wiz.
added on the 2013-07-30 13:11:22 by p01 p01
Quote:
mrdoob: Btw, I'm still not quite sure what you meant there.

It was meant to be a compliment. A twisted one I admit.

Quote:
And I'm curious to know what you think of this as a fellow demo & JS wiz.

Well, it runs at ~4fps here, so... even if it's crazy great technically it makes me feel bad about my system :P
added on the 2013-07-30 13:22:52 by mrdoob mrdoob
I kinda like it but I really really wish it had vsync :/
added on the 2013-07-30 13:27:33 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: I can't enable/disable vsync from JavaScript/WebGL. Isn't that supposed to be a setting on your system?
added on the 2013-07-30 13:49:02 by mrdoob mrdoob
Nice stuff. Sync works fine for me. I really dig the visuals, but the contrast to the top-notch music is a little too big.
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 15:01:09 by pixtur pixtur
starts pretty nice but it misses a proper ending.
rulez added on the 2013-07-30 17:30:44 by psenough psenough
p01, psonice: Changed the title color to white. Also made it zoom in sync with the scene. Hope you like it better now :)
added on the 2013-07-30 21:21:36 by mrdoob mrdoob
pixtur: yeah, that's what I feared. working on that...
added on the 2013-07-30 21:23:19 by mrdoob mrdoob
nice concept, but lacks direction
added on the 2013-07-30 22:38:39 by T$ T$
mrdoob: new title text is way better, but it aliases badly (chrome 28, OSX) with that thin outline. (And now you've changed it, i'll mention that the old red text looked like a <h1> tag from a really old website :D)

Sync changes definitely help a bit. Is the time control new btw or did I just miss it before?
added on the 2013-07-31 11:58:02 by psonice psonice
Yeah, I'm experimenting with the outline text. It's indeed a bit annoying... Maybe I should just find a nice font and use CSS3D for the text on top of WebGL...

The time control is new, also experimenting with that.
added on the 2013-07-31 12:31:50 by mrdoob mrdoob
I found the narrative a bit weak, the transitions between the scenes jarring and the aliasing of the gfx annoying.. but this had doob-style all over it and it wins for that (it also wins for the music, the gfx style, that it runs in a browser without killing performance and the video-like controls)
rulez added on the 2013-07-31 12:32:11 by evilpaul evilpaul
mrdoob: Yep, it sucks that it was disqualified... I'll reply on euskal2013 thread
rulez added on the 2013-07-31 22:09:59 by Crumb Crumb
I couldn't get this one to work in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.19 and Internet Explorer v8 in my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. However, I did get it to work in IceWeasel (aka Firefox in Debian) v22. It was decent.
added on the 2013-08-03 20:20:54 by AntDude AntDude
rulez
rulez added on the 2013-08-04 02:17:43 by svo svo
A bit too dark but very cool.
rulez added on the 2013-08-05 14:38:09 by BackSpace BackSpace
i love it! great tune and slick visuals well done!
rulez added on the 2013-08-06 02:20:51 by blackpawn blackpawn
nice.
rulez added on the 2013-08-06 16:28:18 by iks iks
nice ilektro by om unit. so so visuals.
rulez added on the 2013-08-06 16:42:23 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
good comeback
rulez added on the 2013-08-07 16:39:55 by comankh comankh
why not.
rulez added on the 2013-09-10 08:16:53 by las las
Less is more.
rulez added on the 2013-09-10 13:42:29 by tomaes tomaes
Missed that somehow. Great minimalistic style and hypnotic music. A shame it was disqualified.
rulez added on the 2014-02-23 18:18:41 by gaspode gaspode
great!
rulez added on the 2014-07-09 01:10:59 by RufUsul RufUsul
I watched this before I even got an account here :)
rulez added on the 2014-08-22 15:57:31 by potasmic potasmic
aww yeeaah
rulez added on the 2015-02-26 07:02:46 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
disqualified on euskal encounter but not for me!
rulez added on the 2016-10-01 12:12:49 by Flashira Flashira
I like it

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